My son is seeing things! Please HELP!
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Please note: I AM NOT A PARENT. However, I am someone who has lived life on the spectrum and I do try and be a pretty good guy.
I have nasal speech. And in a discussion here someone mentioned 'deaf speech,' kind of the way deaf people talk, that they need to push the sound through their nose to feel it because they can't hear it (or hear it as well).
How about, hire a foreign student from a local university to help your son talk? This international student, for who English is a second language, might have more patience for working on speech, talking into a tape recorder, etc. And would probably be thrilled to death with $12 an hour.
Your son is likely to have a rich life, but different from that which you previously envisioned. For example, a little bit of ping-ponging conversation with another person where I feel like I've been understood, and that can give me a high which last for hours. And a movie can be magical, although I do tend to be picky about movies. It's only the occasional movie which really dances.
I currently am unemployed. I have been a copy center manager and a manager for a mattress store. Generally, I was liked and respected by my employees, some struggles with upper management because I tend to do things my way. And I'd rather have this than the reverse.
And because I tend to feel more and/or feel differently, it also helps me as an artist and writer. Just very hard to make a living as a writer, whether someone is on the spectrum or not!
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I read the original post, and skimmed the rest (excuse my hurry this morning).
I'd first guess that it's a garden variety childhood phobia, and not based on anything physical in the house (not based on something he saw which was scary at one time, and is afraid of it's return). As a toddler and little kid, I had a terrible fear of vent fans (as in bathrooms and kitchens). No idea why, and yet I can feel the intense terror today as a 44 year-old bodybuilder who is afraid of virtually nothing else. I feel silly even admitting it, but it's true. It could of course be that he did see something, which he perceived as a danger of some sort, and I don't know how to figure that out 'til he's old enough to explain. Meantime, I'd suggest comforting him by accepting and supporting him in realizing the fear, and don't try to tell him it's fake, or certainly don't say he's imagining it. As far as he knows, he's not imagining it, and you'd just be telling him you don't believe him by that. I understand he's not able at that age and under these circumstances to discuss it, so it's all in how you act about the fear.
If it turns out to be ghosts he fears, maybe get him a DVD with a season or two of The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (TV comedy from the 1960s with Edward Mulhare and Hope Lange). That will allay any fear of ghosts, if he's anything like I am. If it's spiders, mice, etc., teach him as early as possible about the life & habits of those creatures. Trying to convince him that there are no such things as ghosts, or that pests can't get in the bedroom, will only make his fear worse since he thinks he felt, saw, or heard (or actually did encounter) something. One thing I can say that's absolutely true for me and for most other high-functioning autistics I know, is that knowledge and understanding is a must in all cases of worry or fear. I cannot go to sleep if there's something I don't understand. Particularly with mechanical or technical things. I have to know exactly how and why something is the way it is!
Sadly of course, I need to mention that in rare cases, there will have been someone in the house (friend, relative or foe), who may have done something to the boy; upstairs. God forbid, but it must be considered when looking at the big picture as a third party.
I hope some of this helps, and I wish you and the boy success in conquering the bedroom fear...
Charles
Sorry guys for not getting back to you as it has been a rough couple days now. I do appreciate everyone's concern and all your answers are really a great support system for me.
Here is some news...
Pittsburgh Paranormal Society (http://www.pittsburghparanormalsociety.com) came out tonight, they where here from 7pm to 1130pm. They did find evidence of "someone" being here. The meters where lighting up when questions where being asked. They had EVP going on, cameras in the rooms, etc. We will get the rest of the evidence this week if anything was found. But what we go so far that there was a teenage boy here or little and older lady, grandmother type. They feel as if the Grandmother or older lady is looking over my son to make sure he is alright and nothing happens to him. That this "lady" is almost attached to him as a protector. Also, that my son has a "gift" and that he is a vessel and they he will always see these things as he gets older. He just has to learn how to deal with them but right hes to young to understand which is why is he so scared. I wasn't here for the investigation, my mother and I took my son to my aunts to get him out of the house while they worked. My girlfriend and my father stayed back at the house to participate.
What my girlfriend and father told me is pretty crazy and I'm at a loss for words right now. I didn't want to believe this but I kind of expected for this to happen. My father is the type of person where he has to see something to believe it, he isn't easily rattled at all. But when I got home I could tell that this changed him mind about a lot of things. I mean these "things" where responded to actual questions. It was pretty overwhelming what I was told.
In the end, the main guy did a "cleansing" I guess you could call it. He the had the spirits go to the light, at one point he said we could do this the hard way or easy way but you will be leaving this house tonight. They answered to do it the easy way, all the lights lit up for that response. They where getting overwhelming responses. Shawn said he put a protective "bubble" over our house. He said all we can do now is try and understand what is going on, get rid of the negative energy, stop fighting. Myself and my family have been going through a rough time, a lot of fighting, yelling, etc. Shawn and his crew could see that as soon as they stepped in, it was crazy. They new my girlfriend and I constantly fight.
So I guess now I will try and get a priest to bless the house and see if they have any support or answers. I just really dont know where to go from here. I'm still wondering if I should take my son to the doctors, whether its a child psychiatrist or what not?
I really do not know what do, this is pretty hard to grasp right now. Just very worried about my son, I'm upset, angry....
Im not a parent but as a child I was absolutely terrified of some unnamed monster.
I would be very wary of taking too seriously claims that your house is haunted.....I mean , they would say that wouldnt they!! !
My suggestion..(and the only thing that worked for me as a child) is...if its at all possible....get a dog for your son. Seriously, as a child I found it so comforting to have my friend (Socks) sleep with me or next to me. And I would look to him to see if there was any thing scary and if he was fast asleep I figured it was alright. A lot of autistic children find animals very comforting, you could maybe save a nice quiet old dog from a rescue shelter and let your son pick it out so he has a bond with it. I know my advice is a bit different to everyone elses here but I was an autistic child with a terror of the dark and thats the only thing that helped me.
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Does anyone ever hear anything like this, this is getting extremely scary of everyone here. Tonight he was taking his bath, which he usually loves, he always has a blast. Out of nowhere he started getting scared and looking up at the corner of the bathroom. He started crying and wanted to get out of the bath tub. We decided to move his crib into a smaller room away from his room, we had grandma stay with him tonight. He was fine at first then out of no where he took my mothers arm and put it over his face to cover his eyes. He then got under the blankets. About 5 minutes later he started to wimper and cry a little bit. So now it seems to be any room upstairs, not just his room anymore. I can't explain whats going on, his autism therapist don't seem to understand whats going on.
I don't know what to mention what I believe it is.... Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Brett
The chances of a two year old having psychotic behavior like hallucinating are beyong 1 in 40 thousand, it's basically unheard of.
it's just a young kid being afraid of monsters, I was the same.
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How about you keep you're god damned harmful beliefs to yourself, there's enough stupidity going around.
Pittsburgh Paranormal Society came out tonight, they where here from 7pm to 1130pm. They did find evidence of "someone" being here. The meters where lighting up when questions where being asked.
You're an idiot.
I don't mean that as an insult, but factually.
I can't believe people are helping you
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'not only has he hacked his intellect away from his feelings, but he has smashed his feelings and his capacity for judgment into smithereens'.
Does anyone ever hear anything like this, this is getting extremely scary of everyone here. Tonight he was taking his bath, which he usually loves, he always has a blast. Out of nowhere he started getting scared and looking up at the corner of the bathroom. He started crying and wanted to get out of the bath tub. We decided to move his crib into a smaller room away from his room, we had grandma stay with him tonight. He was fine at first then out of no where he took my mothers arm and put it over his face to cover his eyes. He then got under the blankets. About 5 minutes later he started to wimper and cry a little bit. So now it seems to be any room upstairs, not just his room anymore. I can't explain whats going on, his autism therapist don't seem to understand whats going on.
I don't know what to mention what I believe it is.... Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Brett
The chances of a two year old having psychotic behavior like hallucinating are beyong 1 in 40 thousand, it's basically unheard of.
it's just a young kid being afraid of monsters, I was the same.
I WAS SCARED OF "MONSTERS", this is NOT monsters, this is something far worse. You are not here to see him at his worse times, when it actually starts to happen to him, you have NO IDEA!
See this is where you not being able to see what my son goes through comes in as a problem! This isn't him just being "afraid of the dark", he is terrified! Cold sweats, shaking, etc. This happens at all times, morning, noon and night. You never know when its going to happen. I have actually video of when he has these "fears" and everyone I've showed it to, people who've dealt with kids for a living can't believe how terrified he is. So I'll repeat one last time, THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL "AFRAID OF THE DARK" CASE!
And even the therapists that help him for his autism think that getting a paranormal opinion is a good option. But it seems like you know everything so what do you suggest. If his therapists don't know what it is and can't give any good advice, should I just sit on my thumb and twirl around? Please tell me what you would do? This should be interesting.
I would be very wary of taking too seriously claims that your house is haunted.....I mean , they would say that wouldnt they!! !
My suggestion..(and the only thing that worked for me as a child) is...if its at all possible....get a dog for your son. Seriously, as a child I found it so comforting to have my friend (Socks) sleep with me or next to me. And I would look to him to see if there was any thing scary and if he was fast asleep I figured it was alright. A lot of autistic children find animals very comforting, you could maybe save a nice quiet old dog from a rescue shelter and let your son pick it out so he has a bond with it. I know my advice is a bit different to everyone elses here but I was an autistic child with a terror of the dark and that's the only thing that helped me.
I never said my house was haunted! They said due to his autism he is more open to things and can see things that we cant. There is no 100 percent proof, but the evidence that had had was pretty convincing. He was truly concerned for my son and actually came over again this morning because my son had an episode again. Terrified? So you would shake, breath heavy and fast, get cold sweats, clinch onto your parents and not let go, sleep with blankets over your head, point and talk to the corner of rooms where nothing is even their? I can go on and on. You guys keep thinking that he saw a movie and picked up a monster and is somehow giving him nightmares. He will go from being a happy kid one second to freaking out, absolutely terrified.
And yes it's hard for any of you to understand what I'm saying or explain because you are not here, correct? You can't put yourself in my shoes or my sons because you don't know what he is going through. I dont freak out usually, I'm pretty calm, but what he is going through has an entire family on edge.
And I do appreciate the few of you who are supporting my ideas and actually think its a good idea to think outside of the box. Because If I take him to child psychiatrist and I tell them he is seeing something, their so going to throw him on every medication or put him through MRIs, etc. Not going to happen.
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I'm with you. And I'm glad you have this video to show medical people.
I'm wondering, back to a previous idea, if it could be electrical noise combined with the OCD-type thing (I've experienced) of being afraid of the fear? An electrical noise, perhaps when the AC or a light goes on, which could go on and off for two hours in an unpredictable way. With the thought, oh, no, it's starting again, and then that thought builds on itself. Maybe. Perhaps.
As far as you and your girlfriend arguing, very understandable. Instead of only "addressing issues" which psychologists love to do, and I mean full time almost 24 hours a day, maybe a leap forward. Okay, if these were addressed, what might we do? That kind of thing. For example, something as simple as a bowling night once a week for yourself (and from the circumstances sounds like it would be almost impossible to swing right now), but if you could get that going down the road, something this simple might do a world of good.
How about you keep you're god damned harmful beliefs to yourself, there's enough stupidity going around.
You are not required to read my posts if you don't like my beliefs.
I really think I'm starting to lose my mind. My girlfriend and I watch a lot of TV, like Ghost Hunters, etc. as my girlfriend was always into it due to a past experience she had when she was younger, she doesn't like to talk about it. I feel like I'm crazy for saying this but I actually contacted a local paranormal group for help. There called the (Pittsburgh Paranormal Society). I'm not allowed to post the link here but If you Google it, it'll come right up. I am also going to call Children's Hospital today, that's that place that diagnosed him with PDD-NOS, where he had he meeting or whatever you want to call it. Anyways, none of his autism workers can explain to us what is going on, his TSS/case workers or whatever the abbreviation is? All they tell me is to make him fill comfortable, take some of his favorite toys up there so he fells better, pretty much things I already knew. My son is severely upset and it almost makes it worse when I try to say "It's OK buddy, no one is here" or "Your fine, daddy is here". When he sees these "things" nothing can help him except me holding him and covering his eyes, he will not let go of me.
I talked to the owner of PPS today, there coming out on Thursday I believe to try and help us, do some EVP's and maybe bless the house, see if they can get us some answers. I don't believe in this type of stuff and in my heart I don't think its paranormal. But the look on my sons face tonight scared me to DEATH! I video taped him for like 20 seconds because I wanted to show people what his emotions where about this. His face is was in utter horror, I can't even watch the video anymore it breaks my heart. It's especially hard because he can't tell me what he wants or what is bothering him. I mean he can say certain stuff but his vocabulary is not extensive I would say.
I did have my son sitting on a chair in our living room, he kept looking up the stairs out of the corner of his eye, again like something was looking back at him or something was up there. My girlfriend asked him "Tell mommy what you see up there" and "Can you tell me who is up there". It sounded like his reply was "Ghost". It wasn't clear but it really sounded like that. I know he could of got it from TV or what not but that is the first time I've heard him use that word or even get remotely close to saying it. Some I'm sitting here trying to put all these pieces together. Like he was never afraid to take a bath, it was his favorite thing to do, loved the water. All of a sudden tonight he saw something again and had to be taken out immediately. He is walking by the steps, from crossing from the dining room to the living room and he well hurry up and glance upstairs. It's hard to explain but as a father I know something is very wrong. I might not be able to describe that good, but were all upset and scared too. The owner of PPS will be coming out Thursday at 8PM like I said, he will be bring 3 people with him to assist him. He was telling me on the phone that children are very in-tuned with the paranormal and even more so for kids with autism whether it's mild or not. I don't know much about this, that's why I'm here. Also, it's kind of hard to tell others, especially doctors, that you think your son is seeing ghosts or unseen objects. Were at standstill with where we go from this? I can't keep switching him from room to room, praying to go that he wakes up one day not scared anymore or this "ghost" goes away. I forbid my son from being scared to sleep in his own room or feel uncomfortable being in his own house. Because he gets therapy here at the house 30 hours a week for his autism. I need him to feel safe here to he can get the help he needs.
I would really appreciate your help and comments, I'm open to any suggestions not matter how crazy it sounds. Please tell me any personal experience you have had or have heard from others.
Thank you so much guys!
Sincerely,
Brett
Has your son ever been present when you and your girlfriend watch Ghost Hunters ?
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Not unheard of. Jani Schofield has some baby videos suggesting her hallucinations were present even when she was less than a year old. But it is extremely rare for a kid that young to hallucinate.
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Okay, Mr. Dad Guy, you need to calm down. Are you a young parent? I wonn't judge you for it if you are, but this may make it harder for you to remain level-headed in these types of situations. If you are a young parent, remember that your brain isn't fully mature yet, so watching Ghost Hunters may not only be damaging for your son, but you as well since when immature brains see something, even if it's on TV, they internalize it as though it were real. This may make you a little biased when it comes to the paranormal.
I would take these paranormal findings with about 20,000 tons of salt since the people who conducted the study are probably biased, but there is still a small possibility that there is something in your house.
Regardless of anything paranormal, you need to tell your child's doctors about this. He may have serious problems that cause hallucinations, as others have suggested. Your first reaction should have been to call the doctors, not the Paranormal Society. The Paranormal Society should be a last resort.
As a person who is helping raise a young child, I think that your son seems really advanced. He knows all his ABCs? Can he recognize them on his own? My mom says my Neurotypical brother (the young child I'm helping raise) is a genius, but he didn't have his ABCs memorized until he was probably about 3.5. This shows that you don't need to worry so much.
Also, I understand your concerns about your son having a normal life, but they are misplaced. Your son will always be autistic, but as a person on the Autism Spectrum, I can tell you that this is not a bad thing at all. I don't need to live a normal life; I'm perfectly happy with skipping a grade, publishing a book at age twelve, going to college (and taking honors classes) a year early, helping raise a beautiful child, and rising above my struggles. Autism will not destroy your child's life. Even completely nonverbal autistic people are able to make great contributions to the world, and I hope this will show you that it is your society that considers the different ways of thinking that come with autism to be a disability, and that your society is not the final arbiter of what is and isn't DISability:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
Your child will have his struggles, and at times autism does make things harder, but remember this: many experts say that High Functioning Autism Spectrum Disorders are responsible for most of today's technology. There are a lot of great thinkers who are now considered to have had Autism Spectrum Disorders, such as Charles Darwin, Lewis Carroll, Jonothan Swift, Motzart, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, and Gregor Mendel. As long as you do everything you can to raise your child into a great person, including pushing him out of his comfort zone at times but not pushing him too far, you've got nothing to worry about.
*awkward Aspie hug*
*wipes off weird touch feeling*
*smells backpack*
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*awkward Aspie hug*
. . .
I have also found this inspiring, and I might add to the list Thomas Jefferson and Jane Austen.
However . . . I shouldn't have to be Gregor Mendel to receive appreciation, love, respect. And that comes at unpredictable times, often when someone likes me for small reasons and I like her back and it ping pongs back and forth. And I don't feel the need to overtry.
I really think the next step as far as spectrum activism is to get middle functioning more widely accepted. Our educational and support services seem to "need" to classify someone as either high-functioning or low-functioning. Almost as if with a middle-functioning person the thought is, what help would we then give the person? Well, why don't we have a respectful conversation with the person and see what help he or she would like to receive.
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