"This person has autism" cards. What do you think?

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The_Perfect_Storm
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08 Dec 2011, 10:01 pm

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I thought the cards were a stupid idea. Apparently a lot of people are up for it.

Fantastic.


I can't relate. Obviously. Probably.


Note that we're not saying these should be required just that we personally have use for them.

If you don't have use, then don't use one. But don't say that we shouldn't if we do have use.


I couldn't even conceive of any possible reason to use one. To be honest I thought you were all weird for wanting to just hand that out and let it do the talking. I stand corrected.



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25 Jul 2012, 11:43 pm

I think they're a good idea - although I'd prefer one in t-shirt form, for when someone says "cheer up/smile/it can't be that bad/why are you so sad" every ten seconds... :?


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25 Jul 2012, 11:53 pm

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Give it to the Jehovah's Witnesses when they come to your door.

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Funny you should mention this. Two female Witnesses came over about a week ago and I answered the door in my flak vest and camo pants. I wasn't expecting company, so I had no need to look differently. This apparently freaked them out (only later did I find out they feel it is ungodly to wear camo and any clothing associated with the military), as they seemed more than eager to sprint out the door the whole time they were talking about the glory of God. Maybe if I had one of these, they wouldn't bee so creeped out. I actually like to hear details about religions, as long as it isn't "you'll burn in hell for _______."



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26 Jul 2012, 1:46 am

I don't think I would want those cards because it could send the wrong message. I don't want them thinking I am asking for their pity, when that's far from the truth.



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26 Jul 2012, 1:54 am

If I had them, I would feel like using them when meeting new teachers or others who might be concerned with my "strange" behavior. Like my art teacher that doesn't understand why I have such a hard time hearing her when she speaks to me, or following verbal instructions. Both are due to sensory processing issues - these things don't register in my brain right away, and I often ask people to repeat themselves.

Just an example.


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26 Jul 2012, 10:18 am

I've been thinking of getting one, provided I can figure out a way to explain Newson Syndrome (Pathological Demand Avoidance) that doesn't make me sound like a 'piece of work'. (Is this just Canadian slang, or do other countries use this phrase as well? It means someone with negative personality traits, who is best avoided as much as possible because they'll make your life difficult whenever you have to interact with them. It's a stigmatizing label.)

I tend to go mute when overloaded. I also have meltdowns where I'm not mute, but I can't say certain kinds of things because some part of me thinks it's showing weakness. (I can often write what I can't say, though.) And Newson Syndrome means being highly directive towards me will make the situation worse.

Situations I'd use the card if I had one:

* when I'm in trouble with the police (even minor trouble with police makes me absolutely terrified and I freeze up for fear of seeming aggressive)
* when I'm too overloaded to talk and someone tries to talk to me (eg when I curl up and hide and someone asks if I'm OK)
* when I'm too upset to say what I need to say in a polite manner, but the person really needs to know I'm on the spectrum

I'm high functioning, but I can see a use for these for myself. It would be even more important for a lower functioning person, such as someone who is nonverbal or minimally verbal, or uses alternative/assistive communication of some kind. Personally, I think all autistics with serious communication impairment should be encouraged to use autism cards if possible, in case they get lost and can't tell someone where they need to go, or someone is misinterpreting their behavior and lack of communication.



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26 Jul 2012, 10:29 am

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I think it is a good idea. If people knew I had Asperger's Syndrome, and had a conrete idea of what AS was, I feel maybe they would start to understand us better.

Along with your license of course, I think any Aspie driver should carry this card with them. Aspies can learn to drive and usually will follow traffic rules to the letter, but its good to know that someone has asperger's


This is not a bad idea, I would carry one. I know I've gotten into trouble with police even though I've followed all the rules precisely because they were accusing me of something I couldn't see that I had done... it would be nice to give them a brief description of how to talk to me so the officer doesn't feel like I'm being combative.

Anyone else here come across as combative, argumentative, or difficult to authorities when they accuse you of something you didn't do? I know I argue til someone keels over from the impact and have a hard time shutting up if I'm riled up... lol



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26 Jul 2012, 11:11 am

I could see how that could be useful in some situations, though I don't know if I'd want any with that exact wording.


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26 Jul 2012, 11:27 am

Hmm, I know I don't show enough Autism in my body language, and anyway I don't agree with showing a card to someone every time a situation arises where I might feel anxious. Maybe if I were more severe and dependable, but because so I have high self-awareness, I don't think I will need to go around with a card explaining my own insanity. I try to leave all that at home.

There's no need to show NTs these cards - NTs can just use their supposed ''empathy'' to be able to put themselves in our shoes and see for theirselves how we might be feeling! :roll:


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26 Jul 2012, 11:45 am

I want to get some cards or the like, but not that wording. Somehow I can see "May act unpredictably" easily translating into being "tased for my own protection."

I'd like something that covers muteness under stress, a tendency to misunderstand requests, and to please be literal. Maybe even carry two cards, one for cops/authorities and one for dealing with regular people. The card the OP linked might be okay for normal people, but not cops in my opinion.


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26 Jul 2012, 1:18 pm

I like to consider it laughable that I would ever need such a card but to be honest, I sometimes get scared about how I would react if the police were to suspect me of something. Luckily I've never talked to a on-duty police officer except at a trade show as hard as that is to believe. I did twice go through customs and let's just say I got the secondary inspection going into the USA.
I'm an obsessive rule follower but sometimes worry I might turn a minor traffic stop into something major by having a meltdown. I watched an episode of cops where I saw something similar to what I worry about where one guy was not a criminal but was having difficulty complying and they kept tasering him repeatedly. For some reason, I have a VERY irrational fear of authority.



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26 Jul 2012, 2:58 pm

I have the Dutch version, it's great to have!
Never showed it to anyone, but if a cop or something wants to talk to me I just might pop it out.

I got it especially to take my mind off of it, knowing that I *could* show it is a million times more important than showing it!! !


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26 Jul 2012, 4:33 pm

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I watched an episode of cops where I saw something similar to what I worry about where one guy was not a criminal but was having difficulty complying and they kept tasering him repeatedly.


Are you sure it was a cop and not a french psychologist?



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26 Jul 2012, 6:03 pm

I wouldn't carry around something like this. I've had moments when I've been too overwhelmed to speak. And sometimes I freeze while I'm walking, which could have bad consequences. But I can't imagine any situations where I would feel compelled to explain my bizarre behavior or eccentricities with such descriptive language. People ask me all the time if I'm alright whenever I do something "unpredictable", and I just nod my head. They don't need a dissertation.

Maybe I'd feel differently if the card was in a different voice. Instead of "this person", why not "I am"? I think that's why I don't like it. It's like it's talking about me instead of for me.



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26 Jul 2012, 8:21 pm

I saw this on the AANE website a long time ago. This is the front of the card, not sure how to get the format right in this post but you can look at the link here ---> http://www.aane.org/docs/resources_aane_wallet_card.pdf

Quote:
I have Asperger’s Syndrome, a social/communication disability related to autism.

Because of my Asperger’s Syndrome, I may

 Panic if yelled at, and lash out if touched or physically restrained.

 Misinterpret things you tell me or ask me to do.

 Not be able to answer your questions.

 Appear not to be listening or paying attention.

 Tend to interpret statements literally.

 Appear rude or say things that sound tactless, especially when anxious or confused.

 Have difficulty making eye contact.

 Speak too loud, too soft, or with unusual intonation.

I would like to cooperate. To help me cooperate, PLEASE:

 Clearly identify yourself as a law enforcement officer/first responder.

 Call one of my emergency contacts. (Please see reverse side of this card.)

 Do not assume that my Asperger’s traits constitute suspicious behavior.

 Avoid touching me or restraining me.

 Speak to me in normal, calm, non-confrontational tones.

 Tell me exactly what I need to do politely, clearly, simply, literally, and step by step.



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01 Aug 2012, 7:12 am

Rascal77s wrote:
I saw this on the AANE website a long time ago. This is the front of the card, not sure how to get the format right in this post but you can look at the link here ---> http://www.aane.org/docs/resources_aane_wallet_card.pdf

Quote:
I have Asperger’s Syndrome, a social/communication disability related to autism.

Because of my Asperger’s Syndrome, I may

 Panic if yelled at, and lash out if touched or physically restrained.

 Misinterpret things you tell me or ask me to do.

 Not be able to answer your questions.

 Appear not to be listening or paying attention.

 Tend to interpret statements literally.

 Appear rude or say things that sound tactless, especially when anxious or confused.

 Have difficulty making eye contact.

 Speak too loud, too soft, or with unusual intonation.

I would like to cooperate. To help me cooperate, PLEASE:

 Clearly identify yourself as a law enforcement officer/first responder.

 Call one of my emergency contacts. (Please see reverse side of this card.)

 Do not assume that my Asperger’s traits constitute suspicious behavior.

 Avoid touching me or restraining me.

 Speak to me in normal, calm, non-confrontational tones.

 Tell me exactly what I need to do politely, clearly, simply, literally, and step by step.


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