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10 Dec 2011, 4:05 pm

It wasn't until I started high school that I realized people actually believed in God. Before then I would go to church every other week but I just thought it was another cultural thing like the easter bunny. I never once thought they actually believed he existed. I also just found out a few years ago that nail bombs aren't actually made of fingernails.



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10 Dec 2011, 4:26 pm

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Before then I would go to church every other week but I just thought it was another cultural thing like the easter bunny. I never once thought they actually believed he existed.

This is exactly what happened to me as well, but I'd realized it a year or two before highschool. I was completely boggled realizing that people really believed that the things in the bible literally happened - my whole life I was under the assumption that everyone knew it was a story that was illustrating a point, similar to the Tortoise and the Hare, etc. After this I began a slow transformation of increasing disgust at religion; it had gone from a harmless story to a symbol of inconceivable belief. Today I am not quite as forwardly hostile to religion, but I still do gather very negative emotions when it is the subject of discussion. I will sit very quietly and allow others to exchange whatever opinions they wish, but I am on a hair-trigger - the moment anyone tries to include me into it I will make very clear what I think.



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10 Dec 2011, 5:11 pm

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One phrase I still haven't gotten is "My have the tables have turned." I know it's a figure of speech now but back then I didn't know that so I was confused.


It means someone who originally had circumstances/factors in their favor don't anymore, and the "other person" who used to have the disadvantage now has the advantage. I don't know the origin of the phrase, though....


I don't know the origin of the phrase, either, but I always assumed it was an analogy related to games, where the cards/game pieces on the table in front of you are yours. So if you're winning, and the table is "turned"... well, uh, you're not winning anymore (derp). So I always pictured something like that lol


It would be due to the fact that the person with power or authority sits at the "head" of the table. If the tables were turned the person with the seniority would have lost their position.

But to add my own special story about getting things so very wrong; for some time in my innocent and naive youth I believed that "oral sex" meant talking dirty :oops: Poor simpleton I was such a long time ago, but it brings tears of laughter to my eyes now! :lol:



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10 Dec 2011, 5:29 pm

J87 wrote:
It wasn't until I started high school that I realized people actually believed in God. Before then I would go to church every other week but I just thought it was another cultural thing like the easter bunny. I never once thought they actually believed he existed. I also just found out a few years ago that nail bombs aren't actually made of fingernails.


I used to think he existed because I believed everything mom told me. I also thought the bible was real too until I got to my preteens. I realized the logic and how it was all impossible and how can someone make the planet and all the trees and people and the houses and the food and how can Moses have super powers to split the water to make a path to free People from the Feroh because he made them his slaves.



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10 Dec 2011, 7:19 pm

I think we may have made a mistake in thinking god exists on, what we call, an intelligent level. I have a theory (one of many) where everything is god, every atom, everything we don't understand, everything we cant see, our cells, our DNA, just everything, even nothing.

Let me remind you that not believing in god is also a belief and is very much like any other religion or science. I'm just keeping an open mind on the subject. Never believe in theories because they are only theories and most likely not true. The big bang is one such theory, it was, and probably still is, taught in school and yet no one knows for certain if it's actually true. Why do they teach only one theory, why not many? Perhaps the guys at the physicsforums .com might have the answer to that, that is, if you don't get banned first, which i'm sure you will. Apparently, any view that differs from there own is an instant warning or ban. I begged them to delete my account on there. :lol:



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10 Dec 2011, 7:30 pm

I wish I could share some stories like this, but I can't remember childhood situations. Besides, most of these phrases come from Aesop and the Brother's Grimm ... and I learned how to talk from reading. Aesop was the second or third book I read, right before preschool. Id just look any weird phrases up in the dictionary or the encyclopedia, which I also read in their entirety.

I did, however, mispronounce just about every word ever. Because I learned them from reading instead of listening. I think I was 28 when I learned that "ubiquitous" was pronounced "ooo-bih-quit-us" instead of "oobie-quee-shus"


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10 Dec 2011, 7:59 pm

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I remeber at recess one day, some girl, I wouldn't call her a bully off hand but she liked to make others feel awkward, came up to me and asked "are you straight?" I looked at her as if she was insane. What? I asked. She repeated the question again.
Now I am not homophobic in the slightest, I fully support LGBTQ rights, but at that time and place I knew nothing about homosexuality much less what being straight meant. I though straight as in a straight line, so I answered "NO" thinking it was impossible for me to be a straight line? what kind of dumb question was that? She laughed hysterically and ran off. The next time someone asked that I answered "yes" because I though that was the right answer. But they ran off laughing again.

Now 2011, I understand what it means, but I was confused for a while......


I can't think of a story to add unfortunately. Your story though, reminds me of behaviors I encountered a lot in school, and that my kids encounter from time to time. They are the kind of behaviors that really steam me.

What she did is obvious. I think she knew damned well you didn't know what it meant and asked the question like setting a trap, KNOWING you would say no, and laughing hysterically because she now had something she could go tell everyone else on the playground just to make fun of you. It was all about making you look stupid. I'm positive she did tell the others, who then came to you asking you the same question, and even though you gave the "right" answer to them, they already knew you didn't know what it meant. That's what they were laughing about. It's despicable behavior. :evil:




You nailed that perfectly, that girl was a bit of a jerk. Most other kids knew what it meant, she definately liked to start trouble. But I have the last laugh. She has 3 kids, a measly high school diploma and a cockroach filled apartment. I have a degree and two dogs. ( I know that's mean but it goes to show you bullies usually turn out to be losers later on)


My interpretation of this: 3 more stupid bullies, 0 more decent people getting degrees. This is why I have low hopes for the future of humanity.


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10 Dec 2011, 8:09 pm

[edit: video NSFW]

intro to idiocracy for ganondox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU


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10 Dec 2011, 8:18 pm

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[edit: video NSFW]

intro to idiocracy for ganondox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU


Unfortunately there is far too much truth in that clip. However, both my parents are of high intelligence yet still have 6 children, same goes with grandparents, who each have 9 children.


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10 Dec 2011, 8:22 pm

There was a lot of people trying to take advantage of me not knowing what things meant in middle school, but I tended to not react because what they were talking about wasn't interesting and they had been people who'd been bullying me quite a while and they weren't even pretending to be nice to me or regret any of it (to my knowledge, knowing me I likely missed it, and that protected me from more bullying)



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10 Dec 2011, 9:22 pm

Ganondox wrote:
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[edit: video NSFW]

intro to idiocracy for ganondox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU


Unfortunately there is far too much truth in that clip. However, both my parents are of high intelligence yet still have 6 children, same goes with grandparents, who each have 9 children.


I think the "evolutionary pressure" on intelligence is higher in non-welfare countries/states. It's places like America where the highly educated tend to have fewer children and the government effectively subsidizes the stupid(er)'s progeny where the trend is reversed. However, I still believe that females ARE selecting for something at all social levels and whatever set of traits that may happen to be, it's presumably 'bettering' the human race SOMEHOW. Maybe it's confidence and creativity that's being more directly selected for in America?



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11 Dec 2011, 12:33 am

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I think the "evolutionary pressure" on intelligence is higher in non-welfare countries/states. It's places like America where the highly educated tend to have fewer children and the government effectively subsidizes the stupid(er)'s progeny where the trend is reversed. However, I still believe that females ARE selecting for something at all social levels and whatever set of traits that may happen to be, it's presumably 'bettering' the human race SOMEHOW. Maybe it's confidence and creativity that's being more directly selected for in America?


Being on welfare doesn't mean being stupid, and America is far from "subsidizing" people through welfare. It's actually more like mandatory poverty, which makes it difficult for people to become self-sufficient, because they can't afford to lose things like a place to live, money with which to buy food and clothes, etc.

Further, education level does not reflect intelligence. Rather, it reflects opportunity. If you can get into Harvard, it's most likely because one or both of your parents also got into Harvard or another Ivy League school, not because you are actually meritoriously more deserving than those who cannot afford to attend and do not have access to family money.

People who have to survive on welfare have to spend a lot more time and energy on survival than people making $100,000+ a year.

Here's some debunking of welfare myths:

http://www.spotlightonpoverty.org/Exclu ... 0b106725db

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1302

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26743067/Pove ... yths-Facts

http://www.amazon.com/MYTH-WELFARE-QUEE ... 0684840065



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11 Dec 2011, 12:37 am

And Idiocracy is a comedy, it is not an incisive or insightful commentary on society. At best, it's classist and racist drivel that feeds into most people's preconceived notions of personal superiority.



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11 Dec 2011, 12:43 am

There's also nothing wrong with people who can survive now who couldn't survive before. Intense survival pressures are not necessary for a successful species. The fact that humanity has developed medical technology that can keep people alive who would have previously not survived is not a bad thing. If the pressures that would have killed them no longer exist, why worry about their survival?

It's not as if evolution has an end goal or purpose. It's just a process that happens because of pressure. If society collapses, pressures will change, and not for the better, and then everyone can have their "only the fittest survive" utopia, except most of them will be dead.



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11 Dec 2011, 12:47 am

J87 wrote:
It wasn't until I started high school that I realized people actually believed in God. Before then I would go to church every other week but I just thought it was another cultural thing like the easter bunny. I never once thought they actually believed he existed. I also just found out a few years ago that nail bombs aren't actually made of fingernails.
This is what I thought church was as a little kid.



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11 Dec 2011, 12:55 am

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And Idiocracy is a comedy, it is not an incisive or insightful commentary on society. At best, it's classist and racist drivel that feeds into most people's preconceived notions of personal superiority.
If what happens in Idiocracy were to happen in real life, we'd kill all plant life with Gatorade.