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19 Dec 2011, 11:34 pm

AlastorX wrote:

As is often the case, I believe I didn't make myself clear. I meant on people who suspect they might have something on autistic spectrum so they are confused because they for example have imagination and they read somewhere that being an aspie means you lack one. Same counts for empathy, socializing and so on. That is why there are many questions like is this an aspie tratits, does this sound like asperger's and so on.
And, what I meant to say is not that people are unaware of other divisions, but that it is nothing unusual that aspies differ, contrary to what one might think after reading DSM (for example).

That is also the reason why I believe questions newcomers ask are not pointless. This is the great place to break the stereotypes and generalization and you can't best way to learn it is from other's experiences and not from books.

Hope I made myself more clear now.

Yes, that makes sense and I agree with you.

But then you have questions like "Are you flat-footed?" "Does autism shorten your lifespan?" "Do you have big toes?" and so on that are kind of ??? to me, and I think some people get so annoyed with them that they also complain about more legitimate threads as well.

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20 Dec 2011, 5:52 am

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But then you have questions like "Are you flat-footed?" "Does autism shorten your lifespan?" "Do you have big toes?" and so on that are kind of ??? to me, and I think some people get so annoyed with them that they also complain about more legitimate threads as well.

Yeah, these question are rather funny. I never even considered them while I was trying to figure out myself. There was really one most important thing for me and that was feeling of being disconnected from society and other people for as long as I can remember.

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20 Dec 2011, 6:08 am

Oh, yeah. When I registered here last year, I read so many threads, and I avoided the rather arbitrarily strange ones.

I wanted to find commonalities and differences that would make sense to me.

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20 Dec 2011, 6:35 am

My intention was to figure out which of my peculiarities can I ascribe to ASD and which to commorbid conditions (anxiety being the major thing).

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20 Dec 2011, 10:43 am

Some people might be annoyed. That's ok. If so, they don't need to reply to posts.

As I said, questions are about finding where one belongs, possibly for the first time. I don't have a problem with that. Personally, I am sometimes annoyed by questions that tend to indicate that the poster has not done any basic reading or research, or are absolutish in nature. Is Aspergers the same as antisocial personality disorder? or, Do all Aspies like cats? are examples of that kind of question. The ones that really have me rolling my eyes are the "superpower" types of questions. But that's just me. If you're annoyed by my annoyance, that's fine too.

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20 Dec 2011, 11:37 am

Back in the 80s or 90s, I remember seeing a questionnaire that asked lesbians about having things like scoliosis. I couldn't figure out what things like that were supposed to have to do with each other, except in the mind of some Nazi. When I see threads like those posted here, I don't bother with them. Why should I care if someone has big toes? But if there's somebody who wants to ask about it, I guess that's kind of a freedom of speech issue. :shrug:

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20 Dec 2011, 5:24 pm

AlastorX wrote:

But one thing is certain, many people seem to think that the only dividing line between humans is ASD/NT which is not. Upbringing, culture, characters, inherited and acquired traits, also play major roles.

Truer words were never spoken. As an NT I find that a fair number of people with ASDs here seem a bit over keen on establishing primarily difference. From NTs, that is. And I appreciate that identity in whatever form is often established by saying "I am not you".

But given how diverse NTs are as a group (and NTs are barely that, more a theoretical construct) and given the important dividing lines mentioned by Alastor which may end up making two unemployed anxious WASPs more alike than different even if one of them has an ASD, I occasionally despair at some of the more divisive threads but it is not exclusively newbies that start them.

If it's any consolation, mild annoyance with other people is a fact of life, and I'm certain I cause at least the same amount of annoyance in others on an equal number of occasions.

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21 Dec 2011, 9:50 am

I'm a noob, and yes, I have looked at amoeba's and wondered "What do you call that shape?"

I did a lot of reading here before I responded to my first post. Yes, I was one of those evil lurkers. What I gathered over hours of reading on this forum is succinctly summarized in the OP.

Thank you, Mr X for this thread.

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21 Dec 2011, 4:11 pm

drichpi wrote:

I would not call you evil.

I wish I had spent more time "lurking" when I first came here. I would have learned a lot more, and not asked many of the same repetitive questions. I wish more noobs would, but I don't hold it against them if they don't. I think we all want fast answers. Trouble is, there really aren't any quick down and dirty explanations. Well, there are, but they all lead to many questions, which lead to more questions....

You,'ve already figured that out.

You're welcome by the way. :wink:

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21 Dec 2011, 4:37 pm

drichpi wrote:

I'm a noob, and yes, I have looked at amoeba's and wondered "What do you call that shape?"

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For a little lighthearted thread derail, I'll answer. That shape is called amoebic.

So what did people call that shape before ameobas were discovered? My best guesses were blotchy and splotchy but that didn't work out on the timeline. Ameobas were discovered in 1757 (wiki) whereas blotchy came into use in 1825 (etymological dictionary). Splotchy came even later as a combination of blotch and spot. So what things predating the discovery of amoebas would have that shape? Probably various messes such as paint splatter or candle wax puddles. People probably just called those messy but that's more a description of what they are made of rather than the shape.

Yay ameoebas for giving us the amoebic adjective.

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21 Dec 2011, 4:43 pm

I saw a blurb on CNN about a brain-eating amoeba infesting a nasal irrigation device called a "neti pot". It's killed two people so far. I looked up the device, which scared me more than the amoeba.

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21 Dec 2011, 6:13 pm

When I see posts I get sick and tired of, I lose interest and not read it. Same as if I felt I have already answered that in the past, I don't feel like doing it again, ignore. Also if I see something I think is a stupid question, I don't click on it because I find it boring. Maybe I will click on it when I am bored just to see what the responses are.

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21 Dec 2011, 7:06 pm

Janissy wrote:

drichpi wrote:

I'm a noob, and yes, I have looked at amoeba's and wondered "What do you call that shape?"

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So we're blotchy-splotchy now, huh? :lol:

Yeah, why not? Amoeba's are cool!

Except for the ones that'll kill you. :wink:

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22 Dec 2011, 1:36 am

btbnnyr wrote:

I saw a blurb on CNN about a brain-eating amoeba infesting a nasal irrigation device called a "neti pot". It's killed two people so far. I looked up the device, which scared me more than the amoeba.

There are days during allergy season when I crave something like a neti pot very badly. It's actually apparently fairly useful.

I have no idea if I can withstand the sensory experience of using one, however.

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22 Dec 2011, 2:01 am

I looked up more information about neti pots and the killer amoeba, which is not even an amoeba but incorrectly stated as such in the news. It turned out that the infections were due to using killer parasite contaminated tap water, and there was nothing wrong with the actual neti pots. The killer parasite gets into the brain through the top of the nasal cavity and goes straight to the olfactory bulbs. It multiplies while eating away the olfactory bulbs before spreading to other parts of the brain while still eating away everything in its path. When it has eaten the parts of the brainstem that support autonomic functions like breathing, the person dies. The mortality rate is 98%.

For further reading: Killer Parasite Link, Primary Amoebic Meningoencephalitus Link

What is this thread about again? I can't remember. Is that related to autism? :twisted:

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22 Dec 2011, 8:47 am

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Amoebas are cool
Killer Amoebas are uncool
Killer parasites seem to be cool
Killer parasites are related to the brain which is related to autism
In the grand scheme of things we’re all blotchy-splotchy noobs.
Being human any statement that includes “we’re all” is patently false.

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