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But aren't you psychotic? I wonder if the nonautistic but still neurologically abnormal are more welcome then other non-autistic people here.

your profile says "other autism spectrum disorder". so unless a person stalked your posts they would have no way of knowing your diagnostic status.

So I'm confused: is GreyGirl upset because she was specifically targeted in posts or PM? Is it a tone in a post outside of that poll thread? Or is she upset because 10% of folks in the poll voted in the "unwelcome" category? Because I can certainly understand the first, kinda understand the second, but am massively confused by the third.

And in regards to the third: a forum where only 10% of the population is unkind(and as someone else stated, there may have been some confusion when voting, so it could be even less) is pretty dang rare. I think you'll do well here if you stick around, GreyGirl. I haven't been around, but there's a lot of good folk here(and in my view, it only takes a few awesome people to make dealing with the jerks worthwhile).


All that said...

I know we already have the Haven and all, but perhaps a forum specifically for the undiagnosed would be a good notion. Not to sequester them(post where you want!), but rather to provide a buffer zone where that the vocal minority who do not approve of the self-diagnosed cannot make them feel threatened. I also see a plethora of "here are my symptoms, what do you think" threads(heck, the random board even has a topic poking some fun at such), and they might be better served in such a forum. One could also put all those online quizzes and such there.

I find it disgusting and hypocritical for anybody in this community to bully others, especially when many of us have been driven to the edge of suicide over it.

I will stay here and be proudly undiagnosed; I can't get an "official" label without possibly losing my job and my health insurance

Anyone else who thinks otherwise: [moderator note: Google translate told me this is a way to evade the swear filter, so it's a no-no]

Stick that into your Google Translate and eat it, haters

Oh, I agree entirely. Here of all places, we should be better than that. I'm just wondering if bullying is indeed what happened here. The posts from the OP seemed to imply to me that she was maybe taking the poll quite hard. In other words, seeing it as an attack when there is no direct evidence of such. I could be wrong, of course. In which case, name names and I'll sic 'em.

People who don't welcome all kinds of people on WP can go start their own Internetz forums requiring brain samples to enter.

Welcome to Cujo's Corner. Where rabid rapscallions can rant, rave, and rip one another apart.

Cujo's Corner: Where frothing at the mouth is expected behavior.

Disclaimer: a diagnosis of rabies requires one's head to be cut off and tested. Please make certain you have a valid diagnosis of rabies before you post. Disembodied heads from Futurama do not have an approved diagnosis and are therefore not welcome.

LOL the Bipolar, Tourettes, Schizophrenia, and other Psychological Conditions has it's own minorities and without someone like Phonic posting there who will we have relate to? There are a lot of people with Mental illness who also relate to people with ASDs. Autism has it's own similarities to schizophrenia. Where there is autism there is usually schizophrenia, bipolar or other histories of mental illness in a family tree. My sister has HFA, I have currently diagnosed AS and BP, and my brother has AS too, our grandfather has BP, but it's been debated that he's schizo affective. People with MIs autistic or not still have a lot to offer there so naturally they wouldn't really get hassled. I think the people who dislike self DXed posters are just overly critical people in general. Who are extremely black and white in their views. If they're being annoying all you have to do is be the HFA and just ignore it.

Thanks for all of the support everyone.

Since those on the poll are the obvious minority, I guess avoiding everyone else really does make no sense.
I think I will leave it to those who do not value my statements to avoid me.

Awesom decision!! !

That is the best course of action, I think.

Remember, any group of people who are given a public outlet to speak and relative anonymity(ie: Internet) will inevitably produce some undesirables who try to ruin it for everyone. But I think Aspies, and people on this forum in general(AS or no) tend to take care of our own.

In other words: for every troll, you're going to find 10 folks ready to slap some sense into the silly bugger, not to mention a mod or two. Focus on those folks: they're worth it.

AGREED!! !

When people say "NT" they will almost always define it as "not autistic", despite a far superior meaning being exactly what it says on the tin: neurologicaly typical.

I can serve as a reminder that "non autistics" are not a crowd of hooting extroverted party animal alcohol rinking sex loving shallow superficial makeup wearing bullies. and it's truly a tiresome notion to come across here, you yourself have bought into this stereotype several times I think.

In a perfect world, those with psychotic disorders would not count as NT's, but to most here: they/I do.



I make it clear when it's relevent that I'm not autistic, and I've changed my profile.

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Official diagnoses is also questionable........that being said I do not think there should be a rule against criticizing or questioning self diagnoses open discussion should be welcome. However, I dont think people should be talked down to for being self diagnosed but I think personal attacks are already against the rules so that's probably covered.

My poll might have sucked....basically I was wondering if people here felt self diagnosed people should be welcome or not, but I guess I can see how if someone felt self diagnosed people where unwelcome but wanted them to be welcome they might have voted no.

What I think Sweetleaf was trying to say regarding the poll is that Sweetleaf saw 2 possible ways to take it as worded:

1. Do you personally welcome the idea of self-diagnosed folk posting here?

2. Do you think that, in general, this community welcomes the idea of self-diagnosed folk posting here?

Two completely different interpretations, I feel. And both valid from the way the poll was written.