do most aspies understand the meaning of fashion and trends

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12 Jan 2012, 11:15 pm

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Fashion is an artform like any other, we shouldn't be so quick to demonize it because we perceive it as being superficial, "fashion" is what lets us be unique in our appearence and allows us to set ourselves apart, it tells people just by looking at you "I'm someone just a bit different".


^This.

I would love to design my own clothes, but I don't have the patience to sew. Maybe one day.

I enjoy collecting clothes, probably the way other people would collect baseball cards, or antiques.



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12 Jan 2012, 11:25 pm

I *sort of* get it, but personally I place comfort and not aggravating my sensory issues above fashion. If someone else can tolerate things like tight clothes and wool sweaters, more power to them, but it's not worth it to me to tolerate discomfort to conform to some kind of norms that other people set up.

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12 Jan 2012, 11:35 pm

understand the meaning of fashion and trends ...... YES

care about the meaning of fashion and trends .......Not so much


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13 Jan 2012, 1:30 am

Fashion has no meaning, any more than sports have a meaning.

What fashion has is utility, oddly enough and I can understand that.

Still not really bothered by it, though.


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13 Jan 2012, 2:33 am

I really don't even pay attention to fashion anymore. I wear what's comfortable and practical to me at the given time. In other words, even though I'm a DJ, you will never catch me wearing those baggy pants with the crotch hanging down between the knees, or shirts with graffiti on them. I thought the whole 'gangsta' fashion thing looked stupid when it first started, and I still do. You will also very rarely ever catch me wearing a suit, unless I have to attend a wedding or funeral. Most likely I'll be wearing jeans, sweats or shorts with a t-shirt, sweatshirt or hoodie, depending on the weather.


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13 Jan 2012, 4:34 am

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even though I'm a DJ, you will never catch me wearing those baggy pants with the crotch hanging down between the knees, or shirts with graffiti on them. I thought the whole 'gangsta' fashion thing looked stupid when it first started, and I still do.

To me they just look as if their trousers are falling down. :lol:



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13 Jan 2012, 6:16 am

I think I misunderstood the question. I enjoy the trends and art of high fashion. I don't keep up with it but sometimes it's fun to spend some time paying attention to (like watching Top Model or Project Runway). However I only went through a small phase where I actually changed how I dressed based on the trends, and eventually I sort of forgot that I was interested.

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I've never understood the concept of fashion and trends. I don't understand how something can look "good" this season or year and look "bad" the next season or year. It's either good or it's not.


Nothing looks bad the next season. Only arrogant people really will be that picky I think. I am pretty sure the idea of seasons is more along the lines of making lighter clothes in spring/summer and like jackets and heavier stuff in the fall/summer.

Phonic wrote:
Fashion is an artform like any other, we shouldn't be so quick to demonize it because we perceive it as being superficial, "fashion" is what lets us be unique in our appearence and allows us to set ourselves apart, it tells people just by looking at you "I'm someone just a bit different".


Yus :)

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
Yeah, I think I can appreciate good artistic composition & color combinations and such, but that is different from "trendy," which changes with time.


fashion is groovy... trendy is annoying to me. I think of trends as more of a teenage thing. I guess in some business cultures following fashion trends can be helpful but as a numbers geek for a business-casual dressed company trends are not going to improve my position. Then again like I mentioned in my other post... I actually dress in a way that doesn't reflect fashion or trends I just like how the system works :)

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13 Jan 2012, 7:28 am

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13 Jan 2012, 7:40 am

The meaning is obvious - make yourself look stupid in order to fit in with your idiotic friends as much as possible.

If the question is referring as whether or not Aspies participate in this nonsense, then the answer from me personally is no.



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14 Jan 2012, 2:49 pm

i understand fashion and i enjoy fashion. i resent the expectation that i should dress like a grown-up and respect grown-up fashion rules, so most of the clothing i wear is a sort of compromise.


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14 Jan 2012, 3:22 pm

I can sort of understand "fashion" on an intellectual level.

However, I resent most "female" fashions and the expectation that I must subject myself to pain, inconvenience, and humiliation just to be "hot," and that, as a female, I am socially expected to be "hot" in every situation.

Screw high-heels. :D


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14 Jan 2012, 3:46 pm

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I can sort of understand "fashion" on an intellectual level.

However, I resent most "female" fashions and the expectation that I must subject myself to pain, inconvenience, and humiliation just to be "hot," and that, as a female, I am socially expected to be "hot" in every situation.

Screw high-heels. :D


Most women's clothing isn't painful, inconvenient or humiliating in my experience. Some things are uncomfortable to wear, some aren't. It simply depends on the particular person and what is and isn't comfortable to them. I don't like to wear pants. They bother me for some reason, except for a few pair that I have. I like wearing skirts and dresses. That's much more comfortable to me. I know many women who can't stand wearing dresses at all, and feel the opposite that I do.

For some women, tight clothing is comfortable, and for others it's loose clothing. Up until my early 30's, I couldn't stand to wear jeans that were not tight. The kind you lay down to zip up in the morning. Nowdays, I couldn't wear anything that tight. It would bother me. So, whats comfortable seems to change with time for many people.

I don't see at all how fashionable clothing can be seen as humiliating. I''m assuming that you are talking about short skirts, and belly showing skimpy tops. I would think it depends on the situation about whether or not it's humiliating to wear something like that. I'm too old to wear it, even though from the neck down I could pull it off. But one look above the neck and you will know I'm almost 50 and too old to be wearing that. It would be humiliating to me to wear it anywhere, because of my age. It's just not really done by women my age unless they look much younger, or are in certain situations. For a woman in her 20s or 30s, I don't see those outfits humiliating at all. If she goes to the club in one, or out to certain parties where people wear those, it's perfectly fine. It would be humiliating to be expected to wear it to a job interview, court, the doctors office, etc though. It doesn't look right in those situations.

I also like high heels. I have a large collection of shoes, and also some really high ones that I've worn every day, around the house, depending on what else I'm wearing that day. I think they look nice.

How do you get humiliating out of fashion?


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14 Jan 2012, 6:21 pm

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I don't like to wear pants. They bother me for some reason, except for a few pair that I have. I like wearing skirts and dresses. That's much more comfortable to me. I know many women who can't stand wearing dresses at all, and feel the opposite that I do.

For some women, tight clothing is comfortable, and for others it's loose clothing. Up until my early 30's, I couldn't stand to wear jeans that were not tight. The kind you lay down to zip up in the morning. Nowdays, I couldn't wear anything that tight. It would bother me. So, whats comfortable seems to change with time for many people.


Same for me. I wear skirts most of the time. I used to like wearing tight jeans but now they are too uncomfortable for me.

Is that you in the avatar picture? I LOVE the outfit! And is that a parasol? I've always wanted to carry a parasol.



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14 Jan 2012, 7:52 pm

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I don't like to wear pants. They bother me for some reason, except for a few pair that I have. I like wearing skirts and dresses. That's much more comfortable to me. I know many women who can't stand wearing dresses at all, and feel the opposite that I do.

For some women, tight clothing is comfortable, and for others it's loose clothing. Up until my early 30's, I couldn't stand to wear jeans that were not tight. The kind you lay down to zip up in the morning. Nowdays, I couldn't wear anything that tight. It would bother me. So, whats comfortable seems to change with time for many people.


Same for me. I wear skirts most of the time. I used to like wearing tight jeans but now they are too uncomfortable for me.

Is that you in the avatar picture? I LOVE the outfit! And is that a parasol? I've always wanted to carry a parasol.


It is me in the avatar. Thank you very much! It's one of my favorite outfits and my second favorite skirt. My best friend took the pic in her front yard. She loves taking pictures and telling you how to pose or move, etc. She told me to walk away because she likes walking away pictures. All the pictures showing my face have that huge grin plastered on there even though she would say "don't smile". My photo smile is just this huge grin that I don't use normally when I smile but I freeze up in pictures and smile big and hard. It looks terrible and I know it, but I do it.

That's her parasol, but I can borrow it if I want. She also has a bamboo Japanese one.

What I have on there is the kind of thing I'll wear every day. I was not dressed up when I went over there. I had taken her some of the meatballs I made for supper because she likes them, and she was in a picture taking mood, so I got roped in. She does that quite often.

So, you can tell from the pic that what I like to wear isn't always what's "in style" but it's definately what I like. Some days I'm entirely different and in jeans or sweats. Others I'm dressed to the teeth to do housework and bake. Just depends on my mood when I wake up.


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14 Jan 2012, 8:42 pm

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It is me in the avatar. Thank you very much! It's one of my favorite outfits and my second favorite skirt. My best friend took the pic in her front yard. She loves taking pictures and telling you how to pose or move, etc. She told me to walk away because she likes walking away pictures.


Very pretty! I like it that you're walking away. With that and the long skirt and parasol it seems like a Victorian painting.

I hate having my picture taken. My right eye has some retina damage so a camera flash is painful and it makes me squint. So I always end up having my right eye half closed in pictures. I get this weird sort of frozen smile too. I think a walking away picture would be the best kind for me. haha!



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14 Jan 2012, 8:48 pm

dianthus wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
It is me in the avatar. Thank you very much! It's one of my favorite outfits and my second favorite skirt. My best friend took the pic in her front yard. She loves taking pictures and telling you how to pose or move, etc. She told me to walk away because she likes walking away pictures.


Very pretty! I like it that you're walking away. With that and the long skirt and parasol it seems like a Victorian painting.

I hate having my picture taken. My right eye has some retina damage so a camera flash is painful and it makes me squint. So I always end up having my right eye half closed in pictures. I get this weird sort of frozen smile too. I think a walking away picture would be the best kind for me. haha!

i saw a trick on america's next top model. i used it on my avatar, where i had the flash only a foot away from my eyes and at first i couldn't stop blinking. what you do is close your eyes, then when you hear the shutter you snap your eyes open. you have a fraction of a second as the flash doesn't pop immediately. it really works. you don't have time to close your eyes again before the image is taken.


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