Is Arguing All the Time an Autistic Trait?

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23 Oct 2006, 8:28 pm

I hate having to bite my tongue and keep from telling my customers "No you're wrong".
"A 1975 500cc motorcycle will not go 200mph!"
Always being called negative.
Having to add something nice after I gave an honest awnser.
"Well the picture isn't straight." "But it looks great there."
I feel so fake.
So, yes I point out every flaw, correct everyone (out loud or in my head), and argue my point with statistics and facts.
One of my favorite quotes.
We'll get along fine, as soon as you realize that I am god.



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23 Oct 2006, 9:23 pm

If the bloody NewTs would quit believing every stupid newscaster or Urban Legend they hear, I WOULDN'T ARGUE ! !!

My idiot boss tried to tell me that the Nazis ran Karl Marx out of Germany ! !! ! Almost lost me job on that note.

Oh, the one answer to identify a NewT, "Some guy on TV said that."
WHAT ARE YOU, A CHILD ??? THE PEOPLE ON THE TV AREN'T THERE TO TELL YOU THE BLEEDIN' TRUTH ! !!

Arrrggghhhhhh ! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !



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23 Oct 2006, 9:30 pm

I'm not arguing at all.
Just trying to keep everyone honest and true. There are two main things that really get to me when overlooked ... the "Big Picture" and the "Details".

I also seem to have a gift of logically analyzing cause and effect relationships, that most people can't even understand when I try to explain it to them. It's easy to see that many are thought of as revisionists or "political correction artists", when in fact, they are merely trying to relate some event that they don't completely grasp.


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23 Oct 2006, 10:33 pm

I've learned to keep my argumentative nature in check, except around my family. It's just so hard when everyone else is wrong all the time ;)



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23 Oct 2006, 11:25 pm

I have had people tell me that I make them feel stupid. For one, I cant "make" anyone anything, unless they allow me to. 2nd, why would anyone allow them selves to feel that way?


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25 Oct 2006, 1:50 am

i never know when people are getting mad at me for trying to amend an incorrect notion/assumption.

my brother has the same problem, but he's better at holding his tongue now. he says my biggest problem is by even offering any assistance or correction people will assume me presumptuous and arrogant, sometimes condescending.

this even after i tried correcting my tone and approach. i have huge problems holding back my opinions, but i find that if i can hold it back for the moment, it will pass. and then i b***h to my bf. :D

i wouldn't consider myself argumentative. i never pick on something just to 'prove' that i am right. i also enjoy a constant exchange of ideas and perspectives on various issues, but will never push for the position of being 'right'. i would rather ask about something i am unsure of than to sit there and accept everything as-is if i have even the slightest query.

maybe people consider this 'argumentative', i know my dad does, but i never could understand why someone would get heated up over a question. this is why i sometimes walk away from dad or grandma when they say things i find to be utterly ridiculous. they flare up at every slightest thing i ask and take everything personally.

these days i just append "in my opinion, don't take this personally, i feel that....." blah blah blah. i make a conscious effort to avoid statements like 'you are wrong', or 'that is a misconception'. i find that phrasing my opinion carefully can turn the situation in my favour, getting more appreciation for my input/participation. but this is also very tiring for me as i have to carefully construct this possible timebomb in my head.

better to just say 'mm' and nod my head alot. :E people like that very much it would seem!


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25 Oct 2006, 12:51 pm

It is easy to tell me to make a cup of tea, wash up or do a bit of filing.
However it is not easy to fob me of with lies. Especially if those lies and false information has big implication on my life or anyone I care about. I will argue against those lies, the best way I can.



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25 Apr 2012, 11:43 pm

no



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25 Apr 2012, 11:52 pm

I don't argue a lot per se, but there are a few people I know who I can into lively debate with--often over nit-picky details and stuff. :D

I do tend to correct people, though, which I don't think always goes over so well...



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26 Apr 2012, 12:31 am

I argue all the time. What can I say? I have a hard time putting myself in other peoples shoes so when I hear something I don't agree with I can't tolerate anything outside of my own perception of it. Basically, it's all about me. I know this is a problem and I try to watch what I say but sometimes I slip. OK, well, a lot of times :lol:



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26 Apr 2012, 12:44 am

I've been told I argue and I have been told I love to do it. I mean how do you not argue because it seems like when I disagree or correct someone or say my opinion or even ask a question, I am "arguing."

Do I argue all the time? I dunno. I think I have learned to keep my mouth shut more to avoid it. But then I get my moments where I feel I have the right to express myself and not be quiet because what is this? Political correctness? I think I get worse every Spring because that is when I am more anxious and antsy and more difficult to deal with.



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26 Apr 2012, 1:24 am

I think I used to, as a kid. At least with my family - I was too shy to argue with people I didn't know well. As an adult I've suppressed my natural urge to argue just so "the truth triumphs". Many people are wrong about many things. To hell with them. Let them be wrong, unless it has some kind of an impact on me.

When it does have an impact I try to be careful about how I argue. My goal is to get something done and that takes priority over "proving I'm right". I know if I say "you're wrong" it's unlikely to help achieve my goal. So I suppress the urge to say that and try to let people come to that conclusion themselves by asking questions. It usually doesn't work, but I still find it works more often than just plain "arguing". Besides, I can still resort to that later if need be.



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26 Apr 2012, 1:29 am

Litigious wrote:
You argue alot because:

1. Aspies won't buy the "truths" NTs do.

2. NTs disagree with you for not being as stupid and narrowminded as they are.


I agree with this. They won't open their ears enough to listen, and blame you for causing problems when you get upset with them not being open-minded.



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26 Apr 2012, 7:40 am

I don't particularly enjoy arguing, and will usually try to avoid conflict as much as possible, unless I'm being personally attacked, bullied, wrongly accused or treated unfairly in some way. Then the sparks will fly.


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26 Apr 2012, 9:59 am

I only argue a lot with my mum, and I used to argue a lot with my cousins. Otherwise, I fear conflict, so I argue less when I'm with my friends. I tend to keep quiet and let them win.

It might be an Autistic trait, depending on the context. I usually find myself bickering with my mum over something trivial, and also in inappropriate places, like we'd walk along the street moaning and bickering over something really stupid, and it's so frequent that it's unbelievable.

Otherwise, it's not like NTs never argue with eachother.


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26 Apr 2012, 8:48 pm

Yes. I have a tendency of trying to correct people when they're wrong about something and apparently they don't like it. Now I try to stay quiet when there's something I disagree with but then someone will tell me to speak up in a certain situation and when I do, they will get angry if it turns out I disagree with them. I hate it when people expect you to side with them just because you're their friend or family member or something.


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