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jcsesecuneta
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26 Feb 2012, 10:00 am

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It's because you have to cling to the Earth's crust to keep from falling off the planet, living down-under and all. :P

But seriously, my vote is for everybody being different. The stereotype is probably that all aspies are logical, but like any stereotype, it's full of holes. Also, stereotypically, males are more logical. So embrace your femininity (did I even spell that right?) ! !! :D


Ah, no. Men are emotional. Women are logical. Actually ;)

Hehe, seriously. Is that what you meant by back-to-front logic?

Anyway, for me the answer is yes. I think logic has nothing to do with it. For example, I thought that computer programming is a logic-based profession when according to most that I've read recently, it isn't - it is artistic, creativity, and specifically visual-spatial, picture-based, imagination.

Additionally, you also need to consider other factors like your personality. Another example, I am an INFP (introversion, intuition, feeling, perception), a left-handed (which they say are evil, haha), and a Visual-Spatial Learner ("VSL"). Putting the left-handed aside, these two - INFP and VSL, have parts wherein it doesn't fit with AS and vice-versa.

A few of the 'signs' for AS I'll surely fail even if I think back in my history, because I got that 'trait' or personality or thinking process from being an INFP and/or VSL. But obviously, in my case, INFP, VSL, and AS are mostly overlapping, not to mention the stuff they say about left-handedness (yes, including being evil - I used to dabble in the art, hehe - but no, evilness and left-handedness has nothing in common, just a ironic thing of nature).


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26 Feb 2012, 10:29 am

jcsesecuneta wrote:
I think logic has nothing to do with it. For example, I thought that computer programming is a logic-based profession when according to most that I've read recently, it isn't - it is artistic, creativity, and specifically visual-spatial, picture-based, imagination.


Hmm. Well, I suppose it's possible that I'm weird at programming, as well. For I assure you that my programming is all logic based.



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26 Feb 2012, 10:41 am

For me, if a = b, and b = c, then a MUST = c. Logic. (And Algebra).

But for some, what if c doesn't like a? Then do they have to be equal?!



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26 Feb 2012, 11:02 am

I'm considered pretty emotional for an aspie. And that's ok for me. After all,the only thing I can truly trust is myself and my emotions



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26 Feb 2012, 11:35 am

I'm more of a heart aspie than a logic aspie, so it's possible.


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26 Feb 2012, 11:55 am

Explain your terms, Mick?


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28 Feb 2012, 10:58 am

I think sometimes other people can be more logical than me. I feel I got to explain myself very precisely to people. Here's one example:-

Me: I might be meeting my friend in the coffee shop tomorrow
Other person: You don't like coffee

I mean, why couldn't the other person just assume I was getting another drink, other than coffee? In the local coffee shop they sell different drinks besides coffee, and this person I was talking to knows that. She seemed to think that just because you're going to a coffee shop, you have to drink coffee only. So I should have said ''I might be meeting my friend in the coffee shop tomorrow, even though I don't like coffee, I'd just order a squash''. I can never be concise with anyone.


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28 Feb 2012, 3:06 pm

Lol. Yeah, I've been asked why I'm going to a bar with friends if I don't drink. Umm. I do drink! Water, soda, juice, etc, etc. i just tell them that the bar does serve other drinks. Duh!



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28 Feb 2012, 4:15 pm

I didn't know people were that dumb. I mean you can't go to the coffee shop and meet people if you don't drink coffee? You can't go to the bar to be with your friends if you don't drink?



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28 Feb 2012, 4:24 pm

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I didn't know people were that dumb. I mean you can't go to the coffee shop and meet people if you don't drink coffee? You can't go to the bar to be with your friends if you don't drink?


Well there are plenty of other little examples like that what people have said, and I'm like ''do I have to explain it in every single word?!'' So when they say ''NTs can read between the lines and Autistics don't'', they got that wrong because I have been misunderstood before just by saying something in enough detail but not in too much detail.

Even when people make a mistake in sentences, I don't always bother to correct them. I just know that they mean what they're intending to mean, and I just carry on listening. Like the other day my mum cooked a spaghetti bolognaise, then after we ate it, she said, ''oh that curry was tasty!'' I knew she didn't mean to say ''curry'', but I didn't bother to correct her because I knew she meant ''that spaghetti bolognaise was nasty'', so I just said, ''yes, I thought it was tasty too'', but my brother was like, ''curry? It wasn't a curry, mum!''


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28 Feb 2012, 4:35 pm

Practically all logic is based on underlying assumptions (even very broad ones, like, "the world is real"). I find that my underlying assumptions tend to be different than other peoples', which means that my logic seems illogical to them. That doesn't make me illogical, it just means that sometimes I'm following my very own logic.



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02 Mar 2012, 2:39 pm

I know I keep bumping this topic, but I've just thought of another example of what might be illogical thinking (an example a little like the mum on the ladder thing mentioned earlier in this thread).

My dad was driving all the way down to Cornwall, and I was worried because it was a long drive and I kept telling him to be careful. But my mum was like, ''look, someone's just as likely to have a car accident just outside your own house! And it's just as likely to be as bad! Just because he's going far, doesn't mean he will crash no more than when he just drives to work''.

She's got a point, but for some reason I thinking differently when somebody is driving far away.


But I know that I am a very intense illogical thinker. Some of you may have noticed that I get upset because I don't go out clubbing and all of my cousins do. People say, ''but you don't even like clubbing'', and I go, ''I know'', and they say, ''so why do you get so desperately upset about it?'' and I'm like, ''I don't know'', and the argument just goes round and round in a circle. Not sure if it's due to me being too illogical or what it is, but it's a very strange obsession I seem to have developed.


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02 Mar 2012, 2:43 pm

I'm typically logical, unless I'm emotionally compromised.


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02 Mar 2012, 4:22 pm

logic is worthless because it is based on the anthropocentric reductionist idea of cause and effect


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02 Mar 2012, 4:25 pm

read some hume bro


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02 Mar 2012, 4:26 pm

JacquesDerrida wrote:
logic is worthless because it is based on the anthropocentric reductionist idea of cause and effect


Anthropocentrism is just fine for dealing with human problems. Taking cause and effect into account is the only way to make effective decisions about pretty much anything.

Logic is an effective tool for making many (though not all) decisions. Thus it is not worthless.