documentaries with seemingly normal aspies ?.

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04 Mar 2012, 7:58 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

Older people who don't know that they are autistic might come across as more autistic than younger people who grew up knowing and were taught social things on purpose.

True, but at the same time older people who don't know that they are autistic might just as easily have more pressure out on them to conform to society's expectations (not having people excuse, or make exceptions for, their odd behavior), and thus be forced to develop a better ability to fake it.

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04 Mar 2012, 8:13 pm

pensieve wrote:

Problem is NT's need to see some obvious signs or they would just think the autistic people in documentaries are 'normal.'

To me Jack comes off as autistic. No offence there. Kirsten on the other hand.

I don't know about me. I can't interact long without being sensory overloaded and my social awkwardness comes across as being really rude.

Yeah. I mean, Autism Spectrum Disorders are called disorders for a reason. As in, many others can see there's something not right about you (in their eyes at least). If all you see in somebody is what's considered "normal" traits, how can there be a disorder? I think the closest you'll find to someone with an ASD who's normal are eccentric people or the really introverted.

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06 Mar 2012, 5:57 am

http://www.empowerautismnow.com/adventures-in-autism/

Not a docu, but still interesting.

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06 Mar 2012, 10:41 am

Meow101 wrote:

I manage to fit in reasonably well by "faking normal". I have a job and I'm good at it, and generally people can't tell unless they spend a lot of time with me. Of course when someone really gets to know me it's harder to fake, and my family is well aware of my being an Aspie because I don't fake it nearly as much when I'm at home. I couldn't do it 24/7/365. I don't have a whole bunch of friends, but a few. I can't help but think if I didn't have AS I'd have more. Depends on what you call "fitting in" I suppose. I can do it to the extent I need to in order to function at a job, but it is stressful and wears me down.

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I can completely identify with Kate, have a job and some friends, but need the 'me' time to destress after work.

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10 Mar 2012, 8:06 pm

Hi,

I tried to put some urls but I can’t because I’m new here. You can make a research and look at videos about David Finch, Tim Page, Anita Lesko and Camilla Connolly.

I don't know if it can help, but I hope.

(p.-s. sorry if I make some mistakes, english is not my usual language)

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11 Mar 2012, 5:27 am

Something I haven't seen mentioned here is the fact that many aspies seem less severe on camera anyway. Talking or acting at a camera is not a social interaction. It is not two way and editing helps a lot. If only we could edit life.

Take a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_PBVxGEEY4&sns=em

Seemingly quite normal when talking to the camera, things change in the group shots. In fact most parents long for a teenager like that

Adkit2 also has a nice series, he admitted that through practice he has got better at acting for the camera.

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11 Mar 2012, 4:19 pm

Dillogic wrote:

TB wrote:

you don't know what you are talking about.

Severe [and lifelong] impairments in reciprocal social interaction does not a seemingly normal person make, nor will they fit in reasonably well due to the same.

That's straight from the diagnostic manual [and probably every other clinical description out there].

That is not straight from DSM-IV, and you are still wrong. Maybe you are refering to main criteria C?

"C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. "
- All diagnosis' in the DSM have a general criteria of marked impairment in some area of functioning but that does not mean that it has to be obvious in any way. If you have anxiety everyday related to social interaction, that NOBODY notices, it will still be a marked impairment in functioning.

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11 Mar 2012, 4:26 pm

eigerpere wrote:

No one would ever know from looking at me that I'm on the spectrum, and I'm not mild. It's likewise very tough trying to live up to all the expected norms.. and is a lot of added pressure and stress. When there's no obvious or immediately recognized problem it's more confusing to others when the problem then appears sort of slowly and subtly at first and I find that very hard to deal with. I hate disappointing people so now I just avoid people. They will typically conclude I wasn't as bright as they had originally thought, or that I'm "touched" which is just a nicer way of saying I think you're crazy. They get angry too if only mildly through facial expressions as if I have done something wrong or I have deceived them in some way. It usually ends more often though at the raised eyebrow.

So in other words, I may seem or look normal and clearly I'm not. How do you get this diagnosis anyway if you're almost normal?

I totally agree with you. It is hard to deal with stress when your aspergers is severe. The therapists who diagnosed me told me that they they don't like to think and talk in terms of severe or mild aspergers. They just told me that my aspergers was clear, obvious and that they didn't have any doubts about me having it. That probably means that I'm not mild either and I can totally relate to your story.

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11 Mar 2012, 5:01 pm

"Looks severe" isn't even the same thing as "is severe". You can be the most awkward communicator on the planet, and be employed and on your own and successful... or you can look practically NT and have such problems with dealing with the NT world that you'll always need people to help you.

Me? I'm pretty good at talking. I'm even getting the hang of conversations. Sometimes I seem odd and sometimes I don't. My professor recently told me that I "don't act autistic"--though I'm not sure if that means that I can talk, or that I seem socially adept. I've been taken for developmentally challenged, and assumed to be a genius. I guess it varies with the situation.

Give me a good situation, and I'll look NT... give me a situation like the fire alarm that happened the other day, and you might not even guess that I can talk at all. (Apparently some minor fire set off the alarm in the building at school--I freaked out and covered my ears and couldn't think well enough to plot an escape route--so I picked somebody and followed them out, and it worked despite total overload... by the time I got outside I was aware that apparently the building security had been hovering over me, evidently scared I was going to bolt into traffic or hurt myself or something... Ah, well, all's well that ends well and I've promised myself I'm going to map out escape routes for all my school buildings so it'll be automatic and I won't have to think when there's an emergency.)

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