Annoying habits of neurotypical people

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19 Apr 2012, 9:02 pm

That they think I want to be like them. That there is nothing valuable in the way I am.



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19 Apr 2012, 9:14 pm

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When I was in school, kids in my class (who always took turns picking on me) once got me so angry that I told them all to "drop dead".... I got two weeks of suspension for it.


That's really strange and wrong. Did they not know that you were being picked on by other kids? Did they not care? Because it sounds to me like they were singling you out, sad as it may be.



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19 Apr 2012, 10:25 pm

I hate when they take advantage of me or people I'm fond of. Also, I hate how most NTs will stop at nothing to get what they want (or wrongly think they deserve). For example, in one of my classes in high school, a little clique of jock-ish guys stole an exam from our teacher's room because they didn't feel like actually studying for it. They proceeded to break into the staff lounge and make multiple photocopies of the test and... left several copies behind in the machine. :roll:
Needless to say they got caught and everyone in the class was punished, which I think is unfair because he knew exactly who did it (one of them turned in his cohorts). They were the smart ones... If that is what's considered being in one's right mind, I'm glad mine left long ago.


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19 Apr 2012, 10:59 pm

UnLoser wrote:
CanisMajor wrote:
When I was in school, kids in my class (who always took turns picking on me) once got me so angry that I told them all to "drop dead".... I got two weeks of suspension for it.


That's really strange and wrong. Did they not know that you were being picked on by other kids? Did they not care? Because it sounds to me like they were singling you out, sad as it may be.


The thing is, getting picked on was such a regular thing for me, I don't think anyone with the power to stop it seemed to care anymore. I always reacted angrily, which fueled the kids' fires to keep it up, which made me react worse and worse, leading to... me getting in trouble all the time. I was treated as the trouble-maker, even when I didn't understand what I did wrong. (My school was like a super over-the-top dictatorship, and this particular time-frame was post-Columbine. They cared less about solving inter-student problems and more about controlling someone those they thought might become violent, without caring what the true story might've been.) Hell, I once made a list of all the kids that I didn't like. Then a teacher found it, took it from me, called the principal, and I was suspended for "making a hit list"... I was 11! I didn't even KNOW what a "hit list" was!



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20 Apr 2012, 12:11 am

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Also, I hate how most NTs will stop at nothing to get what they want (or wrongly think they deserve).


I don't think that's NT per se, I think that's just bad parenting - a sense of entitlement and being above the rules. Sounds like momma's little boy who always got what he wants.



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20 Apr 2012, 9:28 am

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MiatheMutant wrote:
Also, I hate how most NTs will stop at nothing to get what they want (or wrongly think they deserve).


I don't think that's NT per se, I think that's just bad parenting - a sense of entitlement and being above the rules. Sounds like momma's little boy who always got what he wants.


I was mainly getting at the whole dishonesty aspect of it. I don't understand why anyone would do something like that, or even why people use little white lies to cover up minuscule things that eventually just get blown way out of proportion. Why not just do the right thing and/or tell the truth? Life would be so much easier for everyone that way.


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20 Apr 2012, 11:07 am

MiatheMutant wrote:
I hate when they take advantage of me or people I'm fond of. Also, I hate how most NTs will stop at nothing to get what they want (or wrongly think they deserve). For example, in one of my classes in high school, a little clique of jock-ish guys stole an exam from our teacher's room because they didn't feel like actually studying for it. They proceeded to break into the staff lounge and make multiple photocopies of the test and... left several copies behind in the machine. :roll:
Needless to say they got caught and everyone in the class was punished, which I think is unfair because he knew exactly who did it (one of them turned in his cohorts). They were the smart ones... If that is what's considered being in one's right mind, I'm glad mine left long ago.


I remember when I was in grade 8 I didn't really have any friends in my class. A girl in my class who I sometimes sat with used me a lot. She asked to see my science paper for one second so I let her, I got up to go get something and I saw her hand in my science paper to the teacher but she had erased my name and wrote her name on the paper. I was so mad but back then I was so shy and I let people walk over me I didn't say anything, especially since I didn't have any friends in that class.



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20 Apr 2012, 11:20 am

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I remember when I was in grade 8 I didn't really have any friends in my class. A girl in my class who I sometimes sat with used me a lot. She asked to see my science paper for one second so I let her, I got up to go get something and I saw her hand in my science paper to the teacher but she had erased my name and wrote her name on the paper. I was so mad but back then I was so shy and I let people walk over me I didn't say anything, especially since I didn't have any friends in that class.


No one's ever gone that far with me (probably because the teacher would be able to pick my handwriting out of 1,000 papers), but back when I was being bullied quite a bit this one girl would take my papers out of the finished pile and throw them in the trash... I don't understand why someone would do that to a person who keeps to herself and reads all the time. :?


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20 Apr 2012, 8:20 pm

Reading this thread it seems most characteristics boils down to: Social status

And how to increase it and explore it's limits (preferable on other peoples expense).
Sounds right?



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20 Apr 2012, 11:29 pm

rileyup wrote:
i hate when they touch me,that is the worst


This... so much this.



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20 Apr 2012, 11:41 pm

MiatheMutant wrote:
I was mainly getting at the whole dishonesty aspect of it. I don't understand why anyone would do something like that, or even why people use little white lies to cover up minuscule things that eventually just get blown way out of proportion. Why not just do the right thing and/or tell the truth? Life would be so much easier for everyone that way.


I agree but I think they were taught to always believe they deserved whatever they want, and to challenge the rules all the time to get it. I think it's also a modern phenomenon. I found this perspective on it enlightening:

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Gene ... edir_esc=y



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20 Apr 2012, 11:47 pm

-Being unable to understand people who are different than them and just complain about them instead. (Lack of empathy)
-Gossiping


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21 Apr 2012, 5:38 am

Mayel wrote:
-Being unable to understand people who are different than them and just complain about them instead. (Lack of empathy)
-Gossiping


See, this is what I keep saying. How come Autistics are blamed for the ones lacking empathy, as though lacking empathy is a unique trait to Autistics only? Like you said in your post, NTs lack empathy for those who are different, but NTs are different to Autistics so that is why Autistics lack empathy for NTs. So lack of empathy is a human trait, not just an Autistic trait.

Just how do NTs get away with lacking empathy and Autistics don't??????? That's what I can't understand.


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21 Apr 2012, 5:59 am

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Just how do NTs get away with lacking empathy and Autistics don't??????? That's what I can't understand.


I think because non-NT people have harder time expressing empathy, in an emotional way. NTs can get all gushy and put on a big production about it. They can't understand that maybe some people value different ways of expressing it, like doing something concrete for someone without making a big show about it.



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21 Apr 2012, 6:34 am

@Joe90, "Empathy" for NT is a concept that is communicated with certain cues. It doesn't necessarily mean empathy in practice. So it ends up with everything else. The right body and verbal communication will satisfy the other-party-got-empathy part of their mind ;)
Otherwise how come psychopaths is thought of as having lot's of empathy when in reality they have none whatsoever? It's all about behavior, not true quality.



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21 Apr 2012, 7:28 am

Well I believe I have more empathy than most people. I can tell the difference between somebody intentionally being nasty because they're a nasty person, and somebody blurting out wrong things because they're socially awkward and is not intentionally being rude. But NTs just think that the socially awkward are intentionally being nasty or rude. Not all NTs, but most. They don't bother to look past the socially awkwardness and actually realise that they are a nice, caring people. They just assume they're being rude because they're ignorant people and so don't want to speak to them. But I can just sense something with another socially awkward person. I know that they're not being nasty, so if an inappropriate comment does slip out about me, I try not to take offense because I know they don't mean it. I hate making other socially awkward people feel more awkward or ashamed, because I know how that feels myself.


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