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01 Jul 2012, 5:26 pm

The weird thing with me and alcohol is that the effect varies very strongly. Sometimes I take one sip and I'll get drunk as hell. Sometimes I drink a sh*tload and don't feel anything.

When I'm drunk however, at first I start to laugh at everything. I constantly smile, it's like I can't control my face any more. But when it gets worse I actually shut down and stop talking.



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15 Jul 2012, 6:58 pm

They say that there is truth in alcohol. If that is so, then I don't like people. When I get drunk I either sleep, or isolate myself in some quiet corner and stare at something.



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15 Jul 2012, 7:27 pm

If I'm at a party or some kind of social event where others are drinking, I'm definitely gonna have a beer in my hand.
I feel much more social and at ease around people when I have a buzz.


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15 Jul 2012, 7:53 pm

couple of drinks = temporarily neurotypical
beyond couple of drinks = aspergers anyone?



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15 Jul 2012, 7:56 pm

Drinking doesn't make me any more neurotypical that I can tell. But I do know that being drunk and then getting overstimulated is a very bad combination. The meltdown or shutdown is just that much more intense on alcohol.


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15 Jul 2012, 8:34 pm

heatherbk wrote:
couple of drinks = temporarily neurotypical
beyond couple of drinks = aspergers anyone?


Maybe it depends on how one's Asperger's manifests itself. I definitely become temporarily neurotypical in some ways after just one drink (able to start conversations, don't feel so awful if I'm by myself in restaurant, etc), but the inability to make meaningful eye contact isn't helped at all, even if I've had four drinks.



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15 Jul 2012, 8:47 pm

I've relied on alcohol to slow my brain down and allow me to sleep without losing it completely. Overall though would say it helps me be more NT than usual



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15 Jul 2012, 9:09 pm

It actually exacerbates some of my symptoms, I've found. For one example, I normally have no problems detecting sarcasm, but the first time I blacked out I ended up giving a girl a rose because drunk me no longer understood she was teasing me about something and thought she was actually mad at me. But at the same time, it makes those symptoms more excusable because "Oh, he's just drunk."


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15 Jul 2012, 9:37 pm

In my experience, alcohol makes me lighten up and be more sociable. However the awkwardness, pragmatic speech difficulties and other sensory issues are still present. I think it is very easy for anyone to believe alcohol makes them more smooth and sometimes it might. Of course when this happens you run the risk of getting to drunk and making a bad impression or relying on alcohol to get through your anxiety.



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16 Jul 2012, 3:01 am

I spent a lot of time drinking to get normal. I was so normal.

Then I spent a lot of time getting sober.

That sucked.


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16 Jul 2012, 10:07 am

I've found that alcohol dulls my intensity, and it makes me far more talkative. Normally I'm quiet and awkward. Alcohol changes that dramatically. Makes me far more animated too.



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16 Jul 2012, 4:23 pm

Alcohol doesn't do it for me. Neither do weed or opiates. They're nice and fine as recreational use goes, but I like to do this on my own. I'm neither more social, nor less social when drunk/high.

The only substance that lowers my social anxiety is caffeine. When I'm in the middle of a social event and my anxiety kicks in, making me unable to interact with people, I take a strong espresso or a strong guarana tea and it has an almost immediate effect on me (I'm sensitive to caffeine and it kinda gets me high). The social anxiety just vanishes and I feel more charming and secure. I get confident to speak up and share my views. This transformation is so sudden, that I've noticed the people around me looking surprised to see me act differently out of the blue.

But I do not become more NT. I just become less socially anxious. And you know that there are many NTs who have social anxiety too, right? Even caffeinated, I still have no clue about social cues and still take things literally. I still engage in stimming and my passive body language doesn't get better at all. I just don't care about it. And that's fine. When I don't care about it and I don't draw attention to it, people don't care about it either...


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16 Jul 2012, 8:45 pm

Steven_Tyler77 wrote:
And you know that there are many NTs who have social anxiety too, right? Even caffeinated, I still have no clue about social cues and still take things literally. I still engage in stimming and my passive body language doesn't get better at all. I just don't care about it. And that's fine. When I don't care about it and I don't draw attention to it, people don't care about it either...


That's something I've never considered before. Why not just be yourself and not care what people think? Because which is more important?

On the other hand, I hate the disruptions that just being myself lead to on a day-to-day basis (especially at work).

What's stimming? And an even dumber question ... I've never heard anyone talk about passive body language. What does it look like to NT's? I've never talked with anyone about that either.



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28 Aug 2012, 9:00 am

When I drink I switch on my internal autopilot. I can be physically togheter with other people without being there , talking qualified gibberish for hours.



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28 Aug 2012, 10:05 am

I actually think it does make me act more like an NT. It makes me focus less on the content of a conversation (because I can't) and more on the relationships between people. It also makes me uninhibited enough to do what I hear some women with AS (higher functioning than I am, I guess) do all the time: imitate NT behavior, play a role of being someone else for a while. NTs I drink with like me more from then on but tend to think, when I'm sober, that I'm mad at them or depressed when I'm just being my normal self. I wish I could imitate that kind of behavior when I'm not drunk but it only happens very rarely when I'm extremely happy or something.



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28 Aug 2012, 8:41 pm

Nonperson wrote:
I actually think it does make me act more like an NT. It makes me focus less on the content of a conversation (because I can't) and more on the relationships between people. It also makes me uninhibited enough to do what I hear some women with AS (higher functioning than I am, I guess) do all the time: imitate NT behavior, play a role of being someone else for a while. NTs I drink with like me more from then on but tend to think, when I'm sober, that I'm mad at them or depressed when I'm just being my normal self. I wish I could imitate that kind of behavior when I'm not drunk but it only happens very rarely when I'm extremely happy or something.


That describes exactly what happens to me, too.