What is your IQ?
I don't understand those tests with chequerboards and shapes and diagrams. I just sit there staring helplessly at them, and have no idea what they mean or what I'm supposed to do – the last one I did gave me an IQ of 8. (Mind you, at the age of 53 I still haven't mastered long division, so that's probably about right when it comes to anything connected to maths or logic. )
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For me it varies depending on the kind of questions given. On the one someone in this thread supplied, I got one of my lowest scores ever-a 105 ( I can do fairly high math and so I doubt the validity of the result). However, on other tests with actual questions asked, I normally score between 130 and 150. Plus, I am extremely stressed out and anxious right now and so I was not really able to think straight.
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118, must have been one of my better moments today, or i just got a lot of them right by accident. They do say to choose a random one if you arent sure instead of not answering.
Definitely the exception i would get that high. i seem to recall one many years ago where i got like 70 or something. 75.
Research shows that people with Asperger's do better on Raven's matrices.
I've always been somewhat skeptical of this, myself. I've seen an article making this argument before, but it seems unlikely to me. EDIT: 51% of us have a non-verbal learning disability, and if you do, then pattern recognition probably isn't going to be your forte. Maybe it's better than other non-verbal measures, and going to the online version hosted through a legitimate website (the Danish Mensa, for what it's worth, although obviously it's still not a clinical IQ test), I did definitely score higher than is typical for me on a non-verbal measure, but still a lot lower than my typical VIQ score (although I could have gotten frustrated with it on the last four more difficult questions; they might have dragged it up to within ten points if I had gotten them right).
I kind of wonder if there is any fair and accurate way to measure intelligence for people with AS, since visuo-spatial oriented tests are always going to score low and verbal tests are notorious for introducing cultural bias at the higher levels. They're okay for intelligence in the average range, but once you get into the high ceiling verbal tests (like Miller's Analogies or the Stanford-Binet form LM, which is still used for extreme giftedness), you're inevitably going to have to ask questions that aren't common knowledge and where some people won't have encountered the answer at any point in their life. "bird:air::fish:______" is fine, but "Celini:sculpting::Brunelleschi:_________" is going to be a lot easier to answer if you've gone to the Oak Ridge Academy for Prodigiously Gifted Children than if you've gone to an inner city public school where you might be treated as a trouble maker for having serious behavioral difficulties.
I'm reluctant to post my IQ without extreme qualifiers because my PIQ and VIQ are at least two and a half standard deviations apart. So, yeah

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Were you, like, on ketamine?

No I have a panic disorder that causes severe dissociation called derealization. It's been permanent for over 10 months. I also was drinking 4 energy drinks a day at the time and they cause my dissociation to become worse and they lower my IQ (I guess atypical reaction) by 10-20 points.
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even professional iq tests are as good as useless for anything but telling you how good people are at iq tests.
3 digits simply do not add up to the whole of the human intellect and it never will.
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Here's the bald truth: There is no such thing as "intelligence". There are only many, many different abilities. Some of us are genetically luckier than others; some of us got better environments; some of us had more motivation or curiosity to learn. Some of us have problems with the skills that are required in daily life and at school, and we call those people "intellectually disabled". Others have unusually high levels of socially valued skills, and we call them "gifted".
Certainly people differ in what they can and cannot do. Even performance on an IQ test can be a useful gauge of what one might be good or bad at doing.
But "intelligence", as a real thing independent of anything else? No. Doesn't exist. It's a social construct. It's an abstract idea, an estimate, an opinion that one person has of another. We may use it as a shortcut to talk about what a person might generally be capable of doing, but the less specific your statements about someone's capabilities, the less they apply to a real person. By the time you get general enough to talk about "intelligence", you've become so vague that your statements have no practical application and no predictive value--or else your statements have become stereotypical, limiting, and ultimately false.
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Here's the bald truth: There is no such thing as "intelligence". There are only many, many different abilities. Some of us are genetically luckier than others; some of us got better environments; some of us had more motivation or curiosity to learn. Some of us have problems with the skills that are required in daily life and at school, and we call those people "intellectually disabled". Others have unusually high levels of socially valued skills, and we call them "gifted".
Certainly people differ in what they can and cannot do. Even performance on an IQ test can be a useful gauge of what one might be good or bad at doing.
But "intelligence", as a real thing independent of anything else? No. Doesn't exist. It's a social construct. It's an abstract idea, an estimate, an opinion that one person has of another. We may use it as a shortcut to talk about what a person might generally be capable of doing, but the less specific your statements about someone's capabilities, the less they apply to a real person. By the time you get general enough to talk about "intelligence", you've become so vague that your statements have no practical application and no predictive value--or else your statements have become stereotypical, limiting, and ultimately false.
The amount of clear-headed rationality held within this post has served as a potent antidote for the massive amounts of stupidity I've had to ingest this week.
Thanks!

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When I was a child some professional said I was "gifted", but a more recent test said as 82th percentile for verbal and 61th percentile for perfomance which according to this chart (http://www.douance.org/qi/tabqi.htm) make 114 IQ for verbal and 111 IQ for perfomance; I guess I grew more stupid.
118, must have been one of my better moments today, or i just got a lot of them right by accident. They do say to choose a random one if you arent sure instead of not answering.
Definitely the exception i would get that high. i seem to recall one many years ago where i got like 70 or something. 75.
Research shows that people with Asperger's do better on Raven's matrices.
I've always been somewhat skeptical of this, myself. I've seen an article making this argument before, but it seems unlikely to me. Fully eighty percent of us have a non-verbal learning disability, and if you do, then pattern recognition probably isn't going to be your forte. Maybe it's better than other non-verbal measures, and going to the online version hosted through a legitimate website (the Danish Mensa, for what it's worth, although obviously it's still not a clinical IQ test), I did definitely score higher than is typical for me on a non-verbal measure, but still a lot lower than my typical VIQ score (although I could have gotten frustrated with it on the last four more difficult questions; they might have dragged it up to within ten points if I had gotten them right).
Well for me the score on Raven are better as a official test put at the 95-100th percentile on it (125+IQ), propably closer to 95 that 100 as a similar subtest of the WAIS 3 put me only at the 91th percentile; Guess even with those result I'm not gifted, beside having "gifted" interests.

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118, must have been one of my better moments today, or i just got a lot of them right by accident. They do say to choose a random one if you arent sure instead of not answering.
Definitely the exception i would get that high. i seem to recall one many years ago where i got like 70 or something. 75.
Research shows that people with Asperger's do better on Raven's matrices.
I've always been somewhat skeptical of this, myself. I've seen an article making this argument before, but it seems unlikely to me. Fully eighty percent of us have a non-verbal learning disability, and if you do, then pattern recognition probably isn't going to be your forte. Maybe it's better than other non-verbal measures, and going to the online version hosted through a legitimate website (the Danish Mensa, for what it's worth, although obviously it's still not a clinical IQ test), I did definitely score higher than is typical for me on a non-verbal measure, but still a lot lower than my typical VIQ score (although I could have gotten frustrated with it on the last four more difficult questions; they might have dragged it up to within ten points if I had gotten them right).
Well for me the score on Raven are better as a official test put at the 95-100th percentile on it (125+IQ), propably closer to 95 that 100 as a similar subtest of the WAIS 3 put me only at the 91th percentile; Guess even with those result I'm not gifted, beside having "gifted" interests.

The term "gifted" seems to rely just as much on whether a teacher thinks you're "special" as it does on any objective testing.
In my school, one of your parents had to either work for the school district or be really active in the PTA in order for you to be labeled "gifted."

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Here's the bald truth: There is no such thing as "intelligence". There are only many, many different abilities. Some of us are genetically luckier than others; some of us got better environments; some of us had more motivation or curiosity to learn. Some of us have problems with the skills that are required in daily life and at school, and we call those people "intellectually disabled". Others have unusually high levels of socially valued skills, and we call them "gifted".
Certainly people differ in what they can and cannot do. Even performance on an IQ test can be a useful gauge of what one might be good or bad at doing.
But "intelligence", as a real thing independent of anything else? No. Doesn't exist. It's a social construct. It's an abstract idea, an estimate, an opinion that one person has of another. We may use it as a shortcut to talk about what a person might generally be capable of doing, but the less specific your statements about someone's capabilities, the less they apply to a real person. By the time you get general enough to talk about "intelligence", you've become so vague that your statements have no practical application and no predictive value--or else your statements have become stereotypical, limiting, and ultimately false.
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118, must have been one of my better moments today, or i just got a lot of them right by accident. They do say to choose a random one if you arent sure instead of not answering.
Definitely the exception i would get that high. i seem to recall one many years ago where i got like 70 or something. 75.
Research shows that people with Asperger's do better on Raven's matrices.
I've always been somewhat skeptical of this, myself. I've seen an article making this argument before, but it seems unlikely to me. Fully eighty percent of us have a non-verbal learning disability, and if you do, then pattern recognition probably isn't going to be your forte. Maybe it's better than other non-verbal measures, and going to the online version hosted through a legitimate website (the Danish Mensa, for what it's worth, although obviously it's still not a clinical IQ test), I did definitely score higher than is typical for me on a non-verbal measure, but still a lot lower than my typical VIQ score (although I could have gotten frustrated with it on the last four more difficult questions; they might have dragged it up to within ten points if I had gotten them right).
I kind of wonder if there is any fair and accurate way to measure intelligence for people with AS, since visuo-spatial oriented tests are always going to score low and verbal tests are notorious for introducing cultural bias at the higher levels. They're okay for intelligence in the average range, but once you get into the high ceiling verbal tests (like Miller's Analogies or the Stanford-Binet form LM, which is still used for extreme giftedness), you're inevitably going to have to ask questions that aren't common knowledge and where some people won't have encountered the answer at any point in their life. "bird:air::fish:______" is fine, but "Celini:sculpting::Brunelleschi:_________" is going to be a lot easier to answer if you've gone to the Oak Ridge Academy for Prodigiously Gifted Children than if you've gone to an inner city public school where you might be treated as a trouble maker for having serious behavioral difficulties.
I'm reluctant to post my IQ without extreme qualifiers because my PIQ and VIQ are at least two and a half standard deviations apart. So, yeah

I'm a lot more skeptical that 80% of people with AS have NVLD than most people with AS tend to score better on Raven Matrices.
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120.
My father, department head of clinical psychology at Washington University, administered test in 1970.
After all that LSD I did a few years later, I probably dropped a few points.
Whatever, it's not frequent flyer miles anyway.
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my IQ is not genius level, which disappoints me. but by chance, i have been able to improve my IQ somewhat in my adult years by doing crossword puzzles, playing puzzle games online, and reading lots of science-y stuff
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