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12 Jul 2012, 8:57 am

I absolutely agree, when we are embarrassed and shamed for the right reasons and when we can alter our behavior this can be beneficial. I suppose this is kind of the invisible disability thing because I doubt they would have tried to shame someone who was blind into reading from the chalk board.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:01 am

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I bit one of them, and he got really upset about it refused to play with me any more because he said I was a biter. 8) For some reason he thought it was OK for him to be a bully but not OK for his victims to use all means at their disposal to fight back.

I experienced this aswell, biting and pulling hair was apparently a girls way to fight, it wasn't allowed among boys. >.<

I never thought of it as a gender issue before. Good thing I'm a feminist then.
Here's another way in which we can hasten gender equality AND discourage the bullies: 8)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJl3ZAg6mj0[/youtube]



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12 Jul 2012, 9:03 am

In school they tried to make me read aloud and I wouldn't do it, I think from social anxiety. They would do things like say that everyone had to sit there until I read aloud but that never worked. Besides all the pressure on me making me even more anxious I had enough sense to know that they weren't going to waste the entire day or make all the other kids miss lunch over it and they certainly couldn't keep us all overnight. Doing things like that can make bullying worse too. I didn't realize it at the time but the other kids may have felt like they were being punished because of me.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:12 am

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In school they tried to make me read aloud and I wouldn't do it, I think from social anxiety. They would do things like say that everyone had to sit there until I read aloud but that never worked. Besides all the pressure on me making me even more anxious I had enough sense to know that they weren't going to waste the entire day or make all the other kids miss lunch over it and they certainly couldn't keep us all overnight. Doing things like that can make bullying worse too. I didn't realize it at the time but the other kids may have felt like they were being punished because of me.


My english teacher in highschool made it a requirement to read your essay aloud in class to pass. So basically in order to graduate I had to do it. I couldn't and she kept pressuring me and like you say the more pressure the more anxiety I felt. Finally I just had to leave and I stood up so fast my desk broke and I ran out of the school.

I came back when I calmed down and oddly I didn't get in trouble but she did make me read it in front of her freshman class. I was shaking terribly and started sobbing but I finished it. I don't think she was trying to be a bully but I really can't believe that even when I started crying she made me continue. Maybe she thought I was faking it.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:15 am

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I absolutely agree, when we are embarrassed and shamed for the right reasons and when we can alter our behavior this can be beneficial. I suppose this is kind of the invisible disability thing because I doubt they would have tried to shame someone who was blind into reading from the chalk board.

Yup......what I don't understand is, how come so many people are so quick to jump to conclusions that justify attacking somebody? To deliberately hurt another human being, I'd want to feel pretty damned sure that I knew what I was messing with, otherwise what right do I have?



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12 Jul 2012, 9:20 am

I definitely was bullied, but it was more as a younger child, like elementary school age. I still caught s**t from people here and there after that, but it never bothered me much. Basically, I learned fairly early on that the world around me was filled with idiots who want to make themselves feel better by making others feel bad, and if you just show them that it doesn't bother you, they shut up pretty quickly. You either point out the flaw in their logic, simply agree with them in a completely non-caring manner, or you totally ignore them. I was apparently born a gigantic smartass, so I had an answer for just about anything anyone could possibly say to me. The "bullies" learned that I wasn't a target worth messing with. That, and I used to NEVER use my locker, so I'd have all my books in my bookbag at once, and in the event that I would actually have to defend myself, usually all it took was one swing from the bookbag. And if I for some reason didn't have it on me at the time, I knew how to throw my weight into my punches.The kids who got targeted the most were the ones who would freak out and start screaming and flailing frantically when picked on. Why? Because seeing that can be pretty damn funny sometimes, despite the fact that it's mean. I don't agree with it, but I can understand why it's entertaining to some.

The only specific thing I can recall being bullied for was being fat. I never got made fun of for much of anything else.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:27 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
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I absolutely agree, when we are embarrassed and shamed for the right reasons and when we can alter our behavior this can be beneficial. I suppose this is kind of the invisible disability thing because I doubt they would have tried to shame someone who was blind into reading from the chalk board.

Yup......what I don't understand is, how come so many people are so quick to jump to conclusions that justify attacking somebody? To deliberately hurt another human being, I'd want to feel pretty damned sure that I knew what I was messing with, otherwise what right do I have?


I hate to see it on the internet too, for the most part we have no idea what people are dealing with. This is a pretty good site and I don't see flaming and bullying like I have other places. The cruelty out there is just stunning.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:28 am

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My english teacher in highschool made it a requirement to read your essay aloud in class to pass. So basically in order to graduate I had to do it.


I just wouldn't have graduated then. I didn't. I quit school and got my ged a few years later.



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12 Jul 2012, 9:37 am

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My english teacher in highschool made it a requirement to read your essay aloud in class to pass. So basically in order to graduate I had to do it.


I just wouldn't have graduated then. I didn't. I quit school and got my ged a few years later.


I thought it was a big deal then but really graduating made no difference in my life. I found that I learned pretty much nothing except from two teachers. It wasn't until I figured out how I personally learned that I really started to grow mentally. I could barely read when I left school which probably had something to do with my reluctance to read in front of the class. The bullying, humiliation and anxiety made the entire ordeal the worst experience of my life. If I had to do it again I couldn't.



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12 Jul 2012, 10:57 am

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I definitely was bullied, but it was more as a younger child, like elementary school age. I still caught sh** from people here and there after that, but it never bothered me much. Basically, I learned fairly early on that the world around me was filled with idiots who want to make themselves feel better by making others feel bad, and if you just show them that it doesn't bother you, they shut up pretty quickly. You either point out the flaw in their logic, simply agree with them in a completely non-caring manner, or you totally ignore them. I was apparently born a gigantic smartass, so I had an answer for just about anything anyone could possibly say to me. The "bullies" learned that I wasn't a target worth messing with. That, and I used to NEVER use my locker, so I'd have all my books in my bookbag at once, and in the event that I would actually have to defend myself, usually all it took was one swing from the bookbag. And if I for some reason didn't have it on me at the time, I knew how to throw my weight into my punches.The kids who got targeted the most were the ones who would freak out and start screaming and flailing frantically when picked on. Why? Because seeing that can be pretty damn funny sometimes, despite the fact that it's mean. I don't agree with it, but I can understand why it's entertaining to some.

The only specific thing I can recall being bullied for was being fat. I never got made fun of for much of anything else.


I didn't react to bullying. It didn't work. I think people saw it as a challenge and worked on me harder.



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12 Jul 2012, 11:00 am

I tried ignoring bullies once. Hard to ignore them when they're punching you in the head. Ignoring bullies is like ignoring any other problem. Doesn't make it go away.



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12 Jul 2012, 11:52 am

I'm in this category... Age 45, and was misunderstood and misdiagnosed several times in childhood. I was even misdiagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia when I told of kids chasing me home from school, and bullying me, and they thought I was imagining it! For that, I was put in a mental hospital for 7 months at age 9.

It was hell being me, and it would have been much easier if anyone had correctly figured me out, and stopped forcing me to "interact with peers" against my will (makes my skin crawl to even type that phrase)! !! !! ! It had me thinking I was just "weird", and that I had no right to feel that way, and further that I was just stuck like that for the rest of my life... Maybe pretending everything in my life was different in order to cope. Really a bad way to live!

But with that said, I am grateful to be understood now, and it's all fallen into place over the last 20 years, and I wouldn't change a single thing in my life today!

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12 Jul 2012, 4:46 pm

I was pretty much incessantly bullied right up until near the end of secondary school. I think the biggest reason was that I didn't react as most people would. Instead of crying or fighting back I went completely blank. I might be screaming inside but none of it showed on my face. I think it ended up a kind of sport to try to get a reaction out of me. Most of it stopped after I finally snapped one day on the school bus home and literally kicked one guy's face in. I got into a fair amount of trouble for that but it was worth it.

My parents didn't notice anything odd with me as a child. My father wanted nothing to do with me. My mother cared but didn't notice anything. She also didn't notice anything about my nephew while his behavior screamed 'aspie' to me (once I found out what AS was). He was diagnosed late last year.


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12 Jun 2014, 7:37 pm

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This is for Aspies who grew up before aspergers was diagnosed, or much of any disability was accomodated.

How was it? Were bullies worse back then? How did you deal with bullying/ unhelpful teachers? What about your parents?

Im just fascinated by this topic..


I went to public school from 1965-1977. I was bullied all the way through school. My school years were pure hell. Kids made fun of me, pushed me around, stole my books, and called me ret*d. At graduation, though, I evened the score by graduating in the top 5 of my class magna cum laude. I still have no desire to see my classmates because, unlike other kids, I did not form any lasting friendships. I was never part of a group--I never fit in anywhere and today I still don't belong.

My parents would ask me why couldn't I be like the other kids so they wouldn't pick on me. That was totally beside the point--I was different and I couldn't help it. I couldn't talk to anyone because no one understood. I believe the counselors, staff, and teachers knew that I was different, but did not know what to do since I was an honor student.

Is this similar to your experiences?



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12 Jun 2014, 7:41 pm

...I'll get to this , this could touch on some not-that-great memories for me (And a not-so--great present-day life .) :(...



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13 Jun 2014, 8:02 am

and and stuff in school :-( .
II was seen as " different " and sent to what I guess what " emotronally disturbed " schools much of the time :-( .
I never really " got to go to college " and that makes me weep to this day :cry: .
I still want so much to " go away to college " in the standard way , even late , after all these years :cry:.
Of course , it would be an improvement on being homeless :( .