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29 Nov 2006, 2:39 am

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While cannibis itself is harmless the majority of suppliers will soak it in strange and potentially harmful substances (such as formaldihide which is used for embalming) in order to alter the effect to be "different" or "stronger" than normal.

Because of this a majority of people arent even aware of what the normal effects are.

Prove it. I've known... several... dealers and we've talked about this before. Thing is, it's not profitable to sell doped dope at regular prices. Usually the adulterated stuff is done on request.
In 15 years of smoking pot I've known exactly 1 person who'd gotten adulterated weed.
An aunt of mine that's smoked for over 30 years has known exactly 1 person who's gotten adulterated weed.

(I don't necessarily agree with that, but it can be done).


When I was 17 some of my pot head friends bought a drug called "wack" widely
reported to be formaldehyde on weed. Absoluely formaldhedye will not get you high.
(we found some and they tested it) . The story gets more interesting because I was
arrested later and spent a few days in county jail. In there I saw the black guy who
sold the "wack" .I asked him what it was. He said pcp &crack on pot.



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29 Nov 2006, 7:22 am

i dont drink at work or in the morning, any other time i am near garanteed to be drinking, my wife is the same, she says we arent alcaholics becuase we are not always drunk. I also smoke and require caffeine in the morning before i can be functoinal but only have caffeine in the morning.
I tried pot for a couple of years but found it made me freak out or crash out or just become useless and silent instead of enjoy myself.

i have been perscribed dexamphetamine for a few years , i appeared more normal and had better concentration but it made me quite and boring aswell as no sleep or appetite.

i was perscribed valium once and couldnt really notice it that much.



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29 Nov 2006, 11:31 am

Greased_up: I hate to break it to you, but that's alcoholism.
When I was younger I was perpetually depressed because I couldn't socialise the way I wanted to (I couldn't socialise at all). Once someone introduced me to drugs I suddenly had friends. I liked that. People would all sit around in a nice comfortable room and smoke weed, take pills, this that and something else, and we'd be there for hours several times a week. They aren't real friends, it isn't reality inside that room, but it was a better feeling than anything else I'd known.
This unreality became a small haven for me, away from the nasty real world where I was just a misfit/nerd/'annoying crazy person'. To be with people I needed to have money to buy the drugs, and so I got a job and kept the job so I could keep the friends.
Fast forward to four months ago - I got sent to rehab because I was unwilling to stop smoking weed during the entirety of my waking hours. Now I'm sober and I'm back to having no friends, no social life and no job. I feel like I'm exactly where I started seven years ago.
I miss the inclusive structure of drug culture. No one is a crazy person, a psychotic person, a bad person when everyone in the room has just ingested the same set of chemicals - we were all the same for that period of time. It felt like home for the first time in my life.
People who rant and rave about how bad drugs are probably don't realise that they are the only life preserver thrown to those drowning in the middle of the sea of life. Not everyone has someone to catch them. For all the problems I've had in life I was only offered serious help when I developed a drug dependency - and as soon as I looked healthy again the support was withdrawn.
Suicidal? You get a pat on the head.
Addicted? Thrown into supportive community with daily therapy sessions, intensive professional help, educational classes.
Drugs certainly aren't an illogical choice for someone with AS.
(not promoting drugs, just defending them)



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29 Nov 2006, 11:42 am

Yes, people would look at me and say 'Yo, weed be tha reason you don't do anything'

Well, before I smoked, what was the excuse?

I quit for 2 months and the only difference was I was the only person not smoking.. (well, some of my other friends dont, either).. Either way, I've proved to myself I can quit anytime but nothing much happens, all the same, so, like my enjoyment of eating peanut butter, I smoke..



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29 Nov 2006, 11:45 am

i am allergic to smoke(so weed and cigs are out of the question,smells to rank anyway),and cant get beer close enough to my face to taste it(smell gags me). smirnof wine coolers(green apple and what ever the kind with the blue top is) are very good. i can drink six and nothing happens(i thought it was soda :oops: ). needless to say, my mom stoped buying it.


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29 Nov 2006, 11:45 am

So this is about drug abuse?


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29 Nov 2006, 4:43 pm

nope drug use.

everything is a drug...it's all about dosage....drug abuse is when say....u drink too much water which leads to water intoxication which leads to things like hyponatremia

on pot....i think the different reactions depends on what side of the brain ur dominant on...and also whether u r a visual thinking person or not. It seems left brain dominant/internal/non-visual people can handle heaps of pot...whereas right brain/external/visual thinkers it effects much more. But lesser strength bush weed with no pesticides and other crap on it for these people seems to alleviate some of the negative effects in my experiences.



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29 Nov 2006, 4:49 pm

Deutha wrote:
nope drug use.

everything is a drug...it's all about dosage....drug abuse is when say....u drink too much water which leads to water intoxication which leads to things like hyponatremia

on pot....i think the different reactions depends on what side of the brain ur dominant on...and also whether u r a visual thinking person or not. It seems left brain dominant/internal/non-visual people can handle heaps of pot...whereas right brain/external/visual thinkers it effects much more. But lesser strength bush weed with no pesticides and other crap on it for these people seems to alleviate some of the negative effects in my experiences.


I'm a visual thinker and I think pot enhances my mental abilities, especially in regards to focusing on a topic. I've figured it changes from person to person pending on their mental strength. Not everyone can lift 150 lbs with their arms, why should we think all mental strength is the same? It would explain the differences between people and their personal experiences



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29 Nov 2006, 5:30 pm

I am also a recovered heroin addict with AS.

I think the root of my addiction problems was being disposed to addiction because of AS properties, and self-medicating for the harassment I experienced at school.
I begun with alcohol, moved on to hashish, coke, amphetamines, psychedelics, entheogens and finally opiates.

Detox was painfull and to cite Dave Mustaine: "It felt like having your asshairs pulled out slowly. One by one".



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29 Nov 2006, 5:51 pm

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I am also a recovered heroin addict with AS.

I think the root of my addiction problems was being disposed to addiction because of AS properties, and self-medicating for the harassment I experienced at school.
I begun with alcohol, moved on to hashish, coke, amphetamines, psychedelics, entheogens and finally opiates.

Detox was painfull and to cite Dave Mustaine: "It felt like having your asshairs pulled out slowly. One by one".


Alopecia made my ass hairs fall out on their own, so.. :)

Seriously, though, were you addicted to the feeling OR the routine of doing drugs?



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29 Nov 2006, 6:35 pm

A bit of both...it was a package deal for me.
I've come across a lot of anecdotal evidence on the web about AS and opiate abuse. It's a perfect fit unfortunately.
As in Revenant's case, it was for me a reaction to abuse in school, and what initially sold me was the subjective feeling of grace in social situations. That doesn't last long, and it's completely illusory.


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29 Nov 2006, 7:10 pm

I don't want to risk drugs, especially not hallucinagenics. My mind is so f*****g twisted that I shudder to think what I'd find myself seeing. Plus, I don't want to spend money on something that has no benefit to me and I could get addicted to.

I don't like the taste of alchohol, either, and plus I take some medication to make my constant headaches be less of an issue (though they're still there)--meds that I can't take alchohol with.



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29 Nov 2006, 9:48 pm

>I'm a visual thinker and I think pot enhances my mental abilities, especially in regards to focusing on a topic. I've figured it changes from person to person pending on their mental strength. Not everyone can lift 150 lbs with their arms, why should we think all mental strength is the same? It would explain the differences between people and their personal experiences

good points Corv....always trying to figure out the different effects on different people....luv getting people high eheh :P much more interesting than a linear drug like alcohol imo *YAWN* that stupifies u...

interesting in this theory what drugs do what: http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm

Veresae: while we're stuck on this planet and not venturing into the cosmos.....hallucinogens are like the only frontier left to explore :P



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29 Nov 2006, 9:53 pm

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good points Corv....always trying to figure out the different effects on different people....luv getting people high eheh much more interesting than a linear drug like alcohol *YAWN*


Ya, I personally class alcohol as an NT drink as it causes one to be wreckless, say stupid things, etc. not say NT's are stupid - We just dont say our stupid thoughts outloud

I class pot as an aspie thing because it generally causes you to withdraw and be with your thoughts, if you allow it to.

I like smoking with people, I like helping them answer questions if they've never done it. I'd rather them know the truth about marijuana - ultimately, the choice is theirs, I just want them to hear the other side.



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29 Nov 2006, 9:54 pm

I've smoked pot for recreational use....once a year, maybe. I smoke cigarettes off and on. I *never* smoke them around my children, or in my home.


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29 Nov 2006, 9:55 pm

definately.....also when i have pot....i often think far more umm rounded....like answers come to me that were elusive in a normal state etc...

anyone get this effect?