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01 Dec 2006, 10:29 pm

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LOL!

But seriously, why try to cure autism? It's impossible.



why is it impossible?

just curious as to why you think that.


is *anything* really impossible?


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01 Dec 2006, 10:34 pm

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I'd rather look at a Routemaster, than smoke Pot. :?

Go right ahead, sweetie! I (nor anyone else here that I'm aware of) have never advocated that people who don't want to smoke ought to do so. You (and others) don't like pot, so don't smoke it. That's totally fine. Matter of fact, I'm gonna say something I rarely ever say (and in this case, have never said). Cockneyrebel, do NOT, under any circumstances, smoke pot. Unless you choose to.
But don't tell me not to, please.
And if you (not you specifically, Cockney... just a generalised you) do, then you'd damn well better not dredge up disproven lies in some misguided attempt to make me quit. Lies and propaganda will get you exactly nowhere with me and people like me.



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01 Dec 2006, 10:35 pm

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i don't think so. if i walk into a building and smell the faint smell of cigarette or marijuana (or any other number of smells), i feel nauseus. if there is an actual person smoking a few feet away from me, it takes all of my power not to punch them in the face for being so inconsiderate.


Punch me in the face and I'll kick you in the nuts.
ASK me, politely, to stop or blow it the other way and damn straight I will. I have no desire to subject people to something they'd rather not endure. I'd have no way of knowing, upon you having just entered an area, whether or not you smoke.
Get pissy with me, however, and it's a different story. Especially if it's a smoking-allowed area. I cannot abide by those selfrighteous pricks who wander into a smoking area and then start with the little 'cough cough... ahem..cough cough' crap. It's a smoking area. By definition, that means there's smoke there. You chose to enter that area, so cut the crap.
Non-smoking area's a different matter. People that smoke in non-smoking areas piss me off.
While we're on the whole offensiveness thing, I find people who bathe in cologne/perfume to be, personally, far more offensive than smokers.
Also, loud people on cell phones.
Loud people in general.
Ok, people in general.



Quoted. For. Truth.


I would absolutely put out a cigarette if someone was bothered by it...or if I see a child anywhere near me....but rude people...X. and the perfume wave of death is just...ugh. UGH.


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01 Dec 2006, 10:50 pm

diseased wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I'd rather look at a Routemaster, than smoke Pot. :?

Go right ahead, sweetie! I (nor anyone else here that I'm aware of) have never advocated that people who don't want to smoke ought to do so. You (and others) don't like pot, so don't smoke it. That's totally fine. Matter of fact, I'm gonna say something I rarely ever say (and in this case, have never said). Cockneyrebel, do NOT, under any circumstances, smoke pot. Unless you choose to.
But don't tell me not to, please.
And if you (not you specifically, Cockney... just a generalised you) do, then you'd damn well better not dredge up disproven lies in some misguided attempt to make me quit. Lies and propaganda will get you exactly nowhere with me and people like me.


here here! for some of us pot has been a life saver....me included

and it kills aging cells in the body preventing cancer...that hasta be good right? and in high doses it prevents alzheimer's and improves memory....



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11 Dec 2014, 2:06 pm

I used to smoke quite a bit of hash back in the 1990s for epilepsy which worked and I also noticed that it was affecting my music collection as well and you can find yourself smoking for years but the potential harmful effects are from the polycylic hydrocarbons in burnt plant material which are carcinogens and that in some way both THC and CBD can act as chemotherapeutic agents according to preliminary research on cannabinoids and cancer. but there is also the inconvenience because when you are out you cant enjoy a spliff after a meal which smoking where people are eating is selfish. There is also a sensory regulatitive property in weed and for some people it may provide some source of sensory regulation in people or it may be another sensory input because the use of any psychedelic pr psychedelic like drug is a source of senspory input in itself. If I never had epilepsy since 1974 then I would have not got the draw of African Black hash back in January 1992 and carried on smoking pot for 16 years. But now I do eat a piece of spacecake now and againw hich are cannabis edibles which is a more convenient way of having a spliff without the lung irritant method of smoking and you can eat spacecake on the bus but if you smoke a spliff on the bus its a £50 fine for smoking on a bus which is illegal. I think cannabis should be legalised and sold in Amsterdam style coffeeshops here in the UK but that is about as likely as my mum being the next US president.

I first used cannabis to suppliment the carbamazepine that I was getting from the doctor and at the time I was sort of aware of anandamide syndrome that may allegedly come in rare people from smoking weed with very high THC and having verly low levels of cannabidiol which are the two exogenous neurotrasmitters found in weed or the phytocannabinoids (more accurately) being linked to a condition which mimic schizophrenia or tempral lobe epilepsy. Also the presence of CBD inhances the anticonvulsant properties of cannabis and also helps protect angainst anandamide syndrome actually CBD is an antipsychotic that acts as a neuroprotector and acts as an antagonist at the THC like repceptors. the cb 1 receptor which normally reacts to anandamide and THC. Well even too much catnip gets cats paranoid and a bit hissy.

When you smoke hash the buzz creeps up on you but when you smoke weed then the full buzz hits you almost immediately and with hash for this reason you tend to smoke more in joints than you would for weed but in spacecake you get the full buzz about 2 and a half hours later but you have to eat weed cake such as cheesecake (spacecake containing UK cheese) all day to get a relly nice buzz because it creeps up on you. Thats what I have learned about cannabis and its use as an anticonvulasant and for PTSD which I what I have starting eating spacecakes mainly for since the epilepsy is largely in remisssion throught he 16 years of smoking gear. I had Asperger syndrome before I smoked it and I had Asperger syndrome after I smoked it but its main effects on me was on my co morbidities. I also started seeing peoples aura which I used to atempt to learn social skills as an accommodation that I don't do without so there I was still a stoned aspie. :arrow:



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11 Dec 2014, 2:36 pm

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What is Marinol?

A synthetic THC pill that is not nearly as effective as actual cannabis and rather unpleasant/too strong of effects as has been described by some people who have taken it in comparison to actual marijuana.


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11 Dec 2014, 2:40 pm

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I always thought cannabis was pretty harmless until I met several people in occupational therapy classes who had fallen into psychoses through regular pot smoking.


How do you know that was the culprit? Much of the time people start at least developing curiosity about drugs in adolecence...psychotic disorders tend to make themselves apparent in early adulthood(usually not always), so that alone makes it hard to determine whether or not cannabis played a role what is to say without it they would not have developed the disorder. And you're certain none of them had psychotic symptoms 'before' their cannabis use, or maybe where self medicating and where not in this occupational therapy by choice?

I don't know scientifically speaking there is no direct link between cannabis use and psychosis, though in some individuals it is said to potentially increase the risk but there is no concrete evidence.


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11 Dec 2014, 2:46 pm

ooohprettycolors wrote:
i don't think so. if i walk into a building and smell the faint smell of cigarette or marijuana (or any other number of smells), i feel nauseus. if there is an actual person smoking a few feet away from me, it takes all of my power not to punch them in the face for being so inconsiderate.

sorry i don't mean to offend anyone, its a severe sensory sensitivity for me which flips on my aspie black and white thinking about people. smoke=makes me sick=makes me angry=makes me strongly dislike person causing said feelings.

i've thought of many creative but socially unacceptable ways of dealing with this problem over the years...luckily i havn't been stupid enough to implement them. (one involved a trebuchet which launched steaming dog s**t at other people's tables in a french restaurant) Another was a buying a strong, terrible perfume that i might casually spray in large amounts around the offending parties. An eye for an eye in my mind, but i doubt others would see my logic!

I know my real solution is sensory integration therapy, so eventually my nose won't be so bothered, and i will be happy to let others to whatever they hell they want to themselves.

again, sorry if i offended, and i know this is off-topic. i think that marijuana has medicinal purposes and should be legal for certain patients. In fact, its ridiculous that it is not. but i also think that smoking should be illegal pretty much everywhere but one's own home (and only with no children or animals present). that's what i miss most about california....strict smoking laws


Since smoking tends to be illegal in public buildings...the most likely situation someone would walk into a building where someone is smoking is if it is a head shop(seen this a few times) but not sure why someone who doesn't smoke anything would bother going in one. Or it would be someone elses residence in which case I imagine punching them in the face would get you thrown out if not worse.

Also the trouble with only allowing it in ones home is some people don't have living situations which allow smoking inside their residence...should the then be denied the right to smoke on the basis of not having a private home of their own? That said when I smoke outside I do my best to find a spot away from people so they don't have to breath it if they don't want to.


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