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04 Nov 2012, 9:04 am

are you joking :? ?


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04 Nov 2012, 9:07 am

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04 Nov 2012, 9:08 am

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I a, really sorry to leave you guys having and curious about all this.. I know I would feel that way too. But I can promise you I will post back here sooner or later with all this info. I know I would want to know.

I just hope anyone interested isn't disappointed to find what this is all about.

The reason I say that is because all the subject matter that ties into my discovery is mocked in our society.. There is a very important reason for this..

Is there some way I could share this info with certein people in private and still protect myself? Does anyone have any ideas on this?


i remember listening to a ted talk once about research that suggests someone is more likely to manifest an idea (in your case, write about it) if they do not share that idea with anyone. something about the release of that creative energy into the ears of others, rather than on a page. if i were you, i would write your ideas down as thoroughly as possible without feedback from others. that way, when you do seek feedback, you do not risk losing any of the original idea.

i do write short stories and serial fiction (as well as poetry) and most of it contains ideas regarding human behavior, whether they be my own theories or other peoples. im writing something presently that i consider to be a graphic novel in mood, put ive never been one to easily connect the pictures in comic books to the dialogue that appears in them as well.


You are starting to creep me out, Muff. Seriously. A lot of the things you talk about seem like they are coming out of my mouth but you articulate it so much better than I.. this is what i have been looking for.. no joke.

I am a very strong right brain person I feel. I think this is why I struggle so much writing and getting my thoughts down.. but talking to you you seem like a left brain version of me.

The problem I am having is that I have so much information inside of me and so much I need to write to explain this and writing is not my forte.. plus.. ideally I still need to continue researching and educating myself. I have been studying this literally for years... and the final pieces locked into place just recently.. consider the timing of this! That will probably make me sound crazier but this is the reality.

Plus making a story that contains all this info is a huge challenge for many reasons.. I was going to do it in chapters to get this out to people and possibly do it out of order or in order of importance...



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04 Nov 2012, 9:15 am

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For example I can say that we all may be in serious danger. That is what this implies.. and that is why this is so important and there truly could be a time factor on this. It sounds like a ridiculous movie premise but I promise you this is as serious as it gets.


That sounds like all the more reason for disclosing it!


But think about what the danger may be.. this is why it may need to be kept secret... again.. impossible to get into without going into specifics.

Just want to say I wish i had come here long ago.. I've been wandering in the desert for a long time and I feel like I have found my people.. I have felt that it wasn't an accident an Aspie discovered this and that is reinforced heavily by talking to you all here.


the plot thickens. so you are not said aspie? what have you done with the poor lad?


I was just joking.. that's a biblical reference.. I have been on a long journey and have talked to different people researching elements of this and this is the best feeling I have gotten talking to people. Just with people being open minded and everything.. is that an aspie trait - open mindedness?

When I said I didn't think it was an accident an Aspie discovered this I meant me.. that also gets into aspects of my discoveries though. I feel that more strongly talking to you all for some reason..



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04 Nov 2012, 9:46 am

Do you guys know if Aspies or AS people are considered intuitive?

When I was talking to this woman who is a relative of a deceased famous scientist who worked on related science she said she felt that intuitiveness and that something bizarre was going on..

What happened to everybody? You didn't freak out because I said "biblical reference" did you? That was just a total joke comment. This is all science related. I have never been religious...

That made it sound like I am some religious nut..



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04 Nov 2012, 9:59 am

I do (believe they are, that is). If you look up Intense World Theory for autism it fits me really well. Same reason it's hard looking at people's eyes when I'm talking to them. Everything is way too intense and goes way too deep. And I include intuition and psychic experiences in that.


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04 Nov 2012, 10:00 am

...and I believe in synchronicity too.


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04 Nov 2012, 10:07 am

Things are starting to get weird here. One of the problems I have that I believe is related to being an Aspie is thinking ahead.. that is why writing about these discoveries and also dealing with something like this discussion can be so difficult.

Navigating mine fields is not my strong suit. if you say one slightly inaccurate thing or don't think ahead fully then you can really hurt yourself.

For example when I said I could tell some of you.. it's not that simple really.. because this is so involved.. there is so much info that people need to be exposed to.. it's kind of like a semester or year of college. Something like that to explain everything fully. And if I gloss over it you won;t get the impact..

Or saying some joke like I was a wandering prophet.. then people might think you are some religious zealot "repent!" these are the kinds of things I struggle with.. and why it is so difficult for me to present this to people. I have trouble viewing myself from others perspective...



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04 Nov 2012, 10:16 am

Worrying about the impact of what you say or do is an Aspie thing, likely based on past experiences of negative reactions or difficult situations. Even here, there could be people that would ridicule your idea, Aspies all have our own personalities and beliefs. However, I think for the most part, the honesty that most Aspies display, desire for justice and inquiring minds, mean that you will at least be given a fair hearing.

Don't think about the minefield that you perceive. Focus on your discovery. Even if it is incorrect in whole or in part, you should be saluted for having ideas that don't necessarily conform to the 'norm'. It's those who think that way that have the potential for great discoveries and inventions.

I thought muff was joking when he apparently misunderstood that you were the Aspie in question. But then that could be my Aspieness misunderstanding too!

(and I know exactly what you mean about having found 'your people', that's how I felt when I first found WP about 5 years ago).


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04 Nov 2012, 10:22 am

Yeah I think miscommunication with Aspies is a problem in the real world.. miscommunication on the internet are also frequent.. combine them and you have some serious problems.

Also, you brought up a key point.. there are elements of this that I am certain of.. because of all the hard evidence to support them.. but where it gets fuzzy is the implications this hard evidence points to. There are different scenarios that could be going on.. but all of them are incredible.



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04 Nov 2012, 10:28 am

Look, my interest in books is often at the very least esoteric, I read up on conspiracy theories, angels, the face on Mars, the truth about ancient Egypt and any number of other random and scientific ideas. I truly would have an open mind to what you have discovered.

Don't be scared. Of course be shrewd though, if you have reason other than potential ridicule for not disclosing you should honour that.

If it's just the ridicule or needing too much time, in that case, PM me 'cos those reasons do not apply.


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04 Nov 2012, 10:37 am

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Yeah I think miscommunication with Aspies is a problem in the real world.. miscommunication on the internet are also frequent.. combine them and you have some serious problems.

Also, you brought up a key point.. there are elements of this that I am certain of.. because of all the hard evidence to support them.. but where it gets fuzzy is the implications this hard evidence points to. There are different scenarios that could be going on.. but all of them are incredible.


real quick, cause im heading out the door, but i did get the jewish reference. i misunderstood when you referred to yourself as 'an aspie,' 'an' being a direct object referring to an object that was not you. in other words, i thought you were saying that an aspie you know came up with your idea. my mistake.



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04 Nov 2012, 10:44 am

The thing is.. if I just tell you what this is about very briefly you won't understand this fully.. it is very very difficult to explain this.

And it will require very careful explanation.. that minefield.. and time. So the more people I do this with the longer it takes for me to get this info out to everyone. This is why it is so important who I work with and picking the right people. I don't know how to go about that process though. That's a dilemma for me.

But yes.. there are definitely a lot of issues around this.. also.. this is something I really should make people aware of. I have been aware of the dangers to myself in exploring this issue for a long time.. and I forget about that. That is something I need to make everyone aware of who would listen to what I have to say.. again as ridiculous as this sounds if you have family or kids you might want to consider the dangerous aspect of this. And that should give you an idea of why I am careful about letting this info out.. these kinds of implications. When I say this effects all aspects of our lives you can understand why that is - why this could put me/others in jeopardy.



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04 Nov 2012, 10:46 am

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Yeah I think miscommunication with Aspies is a problem in the real world.. miscommunication on the internet are also frequent.. combine them and you have some serious problems.

Also, you brought up a key point.. there are elements of this that I am certain of.. because of all the hard evidence to support them.. but where it gets fuzzy is the implications this hard evidence points to. There are different scenarios that could be going on.. but all of them are incredible.


real quick, cause im heading out the door, but i did get the jewish reference. i misunderstood when you referred to yourself as 'an aspie,' 'an' being a direct object referring to an object that was not you. in other words, i thought you were saying that an aspie you know came up with your idea. my mistake.


Ok.. whew! I am terrible with grammar... I have holes in my education due to falling through the cracks of the educational system as a right-brain Aspie.. and sadly I think I come off a lot less intelligent than I am at times. This is a major hurdle in my situation.. and the hurdles outside of that are already immense...



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04 Nov 2012, 11:46 am

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But yes.. there are definitely a lot of issues around this.. also.. this is something I really should make people aware of. I have been aware of the dangers to myself in exploring this issue for a long time.. and I forget about that. That is something I need to make everyone aware of who would listen to what I have to say.. again as ridiculous as this sounds if you have family or kids you might want to consider the dangerous aspect of this. And that should give you an idea of why I am careful about letting this info out.. these kinds of implications. When I say this effects all aspects of our lives you can understand why that is - why this could put me/others in jeopardy.


Do you mean dangers from something animate or inanimate?


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04 Nov 2012, 11:59 am

There are groups that don't want this information released.