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30 Jan 2019, 4:31 pm
Should my autistic relatives be allowed to have kids 
Should I support my autistic relatives if they decide to have kids
31 Jan 2019, 5:04 am
TUF wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
Ichinin wrote:
How could i have missed this thread? This should be a stickie and a must-read if it isn't already!! !
That is just sad and hilarious at the same time.
"We have no empathy, because i cannot feel emotions"
No - YOU - have no empathy because you cannot feel emotions.
"Why cant we..."
f***s sake with the *we* again.
"Are all aspies/autistics..."
No. Just no. We are individuals first. If you have a specific problem, then that problems is with you - you. Not everyone else.
"I won't be able to have a job"
Yes you will, but you have to go for a job that fits your character and skill set.
"I won't ever find a girlfriend"
No - you wont if you spend time complaining about it on a forum. Join a dating site or some organization where people that are probably single actually meet.
"Aspie superpowers"
Far from everyone is a savant. Just read these forums and you'll see the daily struggles of the "common aspie".
"Lets list some fictional characters with autism"
Go ahead - waste your life arguing about a fictional character.
Wolfram87 wrote:
Can't recall where, but I heard about an autistic guy who complained to his doctor that his meds killed his sex drive, and the doctor responded something to the effect that "well, that doesn't really matter for you, now does it?".
That is just sad and hilarious at the same time.
"We have no empathy, because i cannot feel emotions"
No - YOU - have no empathy because you cannot feel emotions.
"Why cant we..."
f***s sake with the *we* again.
"Are all aspies/autistics..."
No. Just no. We are individuals first. If you have a specific problem, then that problems is with you - you. Not everyone else.
"I won't be able to have a job"
Yes you will, but you have to go for a job that fits your character and skill set.
"I won't ever find a girlfriend"
No - you wont if you spend time complaining about it on a forum. Join a dating site or some organization where people that are probably single actually meet.
"Aspie superpowers"
Far from everyone is a savant. Just read these forums and you'll see the daily struggles of the "common aspie".
"Lets list some fictional characters with autism"
Go ahead - waste your life arguing about a fictional character.Some of these I agree with 100% and some I don't.
I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to find autistic traits in a fictional character. Nobody complains when people try to find sociopathic traits in a villain do they?
Tbh I see autism in nearly every book character I read.
I think it's cos fictional characters are interesting if they feel a bit out of place with the world, see things from an unusual or deeper than average angle, are a bit lonely/loners/like solitude etc.
TV doesn't do this, it uses entourages and idiotic people who are only socially intelligent.
On Corrie, everyone except David, Ken, Daniel and Roy are thick. (Non Brits, this is a show with like dozens of characters on it). Roy is deliberately portrayed as aspie and I think David has tendencies as he's overly blunt and has meltdowns which aren't symptomatic of serious mental illness, usually when something has changed unexpectedly in his life.
I would hate most TV characters if they were real people because they are dumb as a bag of rocks...
Amy said something like 'I think I'm just feeling a bit hormonal cos of my pregnancy' Tracy 'you've been spending too much time learning big words from your granddad'... um no a 14 year old would know the word hormonal... I can't 100% guarantee it was that but it was something as simple and as appropriate to the situation as that. Same as when they ask how each other know about things which aren't pop culture when they show up in crosswords or how they have heard of Lady Chatterley. This stuff is basic knowledge. Knowing the name of the gardener, that would be impressive.
TV characters esp soap characters are proud morons so it makes the book characters seem like autistic savants.
Interesting observation.
Hard boiled detectives in Forties private eye novels tend to be loners. And loner types tend to protagonists in other types of fiction. But characters on TV sitcoms tend to be loud mouthed, and their actions are in the external social realm. The rare savant type characters stand out as such (like the girl in Bones) as being eccentrics. I suppose that if you're an author, be it Tolstoy, or be it Mickey Spillane, you can explore the character's inner thoughts and emotions more. But aTV sitcom is written for the eye, so you have to have characters do stuff, interact, like spout lines that are set ups for other characters to spout lines that are punchlines, and like that. So literary characters would tend to look autistic or aspie when compared to TV sitcom and soap opera characters.
31 Jan 2019, 11:13 am
Because they can work despite being autistic, or because they know of other autistic people who can work, that must mean "all autistics can work" with no exceptions, no excuses.
Untrue. I am autistic. I cannot work. I am not just guessing based on "a pessimistic view". I have tried many variations eagerly and without any doubts for many years: self-employed, contractor, small company, large company, unskilled, skilled, unpaid volunteer work, paid work, different fields, before and after autism diagnosis, with and without vocational rehabilitation's help, with and without family's help.
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31 Jan 2019, 11:40 am
Knofskia wrote:
... I am autistic. I cannot work. I am not just guessing based on "a pessimistic view". I have tried many variations eagerly and without any doubts for many years: self-employed, contractor, small company, large company, unskilled, skilled, unpaid volunteer work, paid work, different fields, before and after autism diagnosis, with and without vocational rehabilitation's help, with and without family's help.
But you tried!Instead of sitting on your tuchis and kvetching about how no one wants to hire you, you got up, got out, and went to work!
THAT alone is praise-worthy!
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31 Jan 2019, 1:48 pm
Knofskia wrote:
Because they can work despite being autistic, or because they know of other autistic people who can work, that must mean "all autistics can work" with no exceptions, no excuses.
Untrue. I am autistic. I cannot work. I am not just guessing based on "a pessimistic view". I have tried many variations eagerly and without any doubts for many years: self-employed, contractor, small company, large company, unskilled, skilled, unpaid volunteer work, paid work, different fields, before and after autism diagnosis, with and without vocational rehabilitation's help, with and without family's help.
Untrue. I am autistic. I cannot work. I am not just guessing based on "a pessimistic view". I have tried many variations eagerly and without any doubts for many years: self-employed, contractor, small company, large company, unskilled, skilled, unpaid volunteer work, paid work, different fields, before and after autism diagnosis, with and without vocational rehabilitation's help, with and without family's help.
You can in some way, either part time, remote, over the phone, give talks or whatever. I do not believe that there isn't a single occupation on this planet that you cannot do. I'm not saying you SHOULD have a job or you are a loser.
My sisters kid have a brain injury, he isn't that smart or high functioning and he is in some senses still a child on the inside. Still he has a part time job where he makes some money that he can spend on whatever he wants.
And if you have at one point started your own business, that is way more than some normal people have accomplished.
Fnord wrote:
THAT alone is praise-worthy!
Indeed.
31 Jan 2019, 2:09 pm
31 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm
Oh, wow, thank you guys! Those statements (that all Autistics can work) sometime make me feel like nothing I do is ever enough.
naturalplastic, yes, my sensory processing disorder makes many minimum wage jobs very difficult.
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01 Feb 2019, 11:21 am
Ichinin wrote:
Knofskia wrote:
Oh, wow, thank you guys! Those statements (that all Autistics can work) sometime make me feel like nothing I do is ever enough.
naturalplastic, yes, my sensory processing disorder makes many minimum wage jobs very difficult.
naturalplastic, yes, my sensory processing disorder makes many minimum wage jobs very difficult.
That is now what i meant, and i don't think the others did either. You CAN probably work in some way, but i'm not saying that you should be employed 24/7/365. For me it's a theoretical discussion, not about what you should do or to put some pressure on you.
Remember, we're people on the internet, you can totally chose to ignore us.
Sorry, I was being sincere. I was surprised and honored. So, really, 
THANK YOU!! for all of the kind words. It was nice to get recognition that I am trying.I should have been clearer when I was talking about statements I usually get from other people who do not recognize how much effort I put into trying to work; those make me feel bad.
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