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02 Dec 2012, 2:24 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHxr2etrfKc[/youtube]oh noes!! !


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02 Dec 2012, 2:47 pm

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Conjunction Junction, what's my Function?

Demotion Motion, what's your Emotion?


:D [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPoBE-E8VOc&feature=autoplay&list=PLwWVgv_Ut6uB4GM9qLyymKXuZjuWcJObC&playnext=14[/youtube]



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02 Dec 2012, 4:50 pm

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I don't care; changing the name of the label for my issues won't change my issues.


Exactly. Changing the label that's slapped on me isn't going to change who I am so I don't really care...



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02 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

I was diagnosed for autism back in 1975. The diagnosis came up no. Instead they gave me several other diagnosis's to explain it, including elective mutism to explain my lack of spoken language.

Then a few years back they diagnosed me with AS.

Now, it will be changing to autism. I guess I should look up those original doctors from 37 years ago and tell them they were wrong.

It took 37 years but the autism diagnosis finally came through.
It feels nice to finally be promoted.



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02 Dec 2012, 8:31 pm

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Revising the DSM IV was a good thing. It removed homosexuality as a mental disorder, as well as other inaccurate diagnostic criteria.


Um, no...homosexuality was removed as a mental disease in the 7th printing of the DSM-II in 1974.


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02 Dec 2012, 8:32 pm

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The term Asperger's Disorder will be dropped from the diagnostic manual next year.
In the new manual only the term Autistic and Autism will remain.

Aspies will be demoted to Autie.

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02 Dec 2012, 9:39 pm

FYI I am positive we have people with classical autism on this forum and your attitude of being demoted is probably very offensive to them.



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02 Dec 2012, 9:40 pm

Demotion/Promotion - is hogwash! Such statements make no sense at all.

My reading of this is that the "professionals" have no idea what they are doing or talking about. What is obvious is that the lumping together of all these conditions into one large category. I can see this as becoming one screwed up mess.

In fact it has already started --- I checked out a crowed sourcing web site on medical and emotional conditions -- when logged in as an Asperger's I am offered an Autistic work sheet that obviously designed to measure my low functioning autism. One example they asked about 1 2 or 4 word sentences but nothing beyond - Most Asperger's manage well past such levels of speech - no effort to discover if my speech is over formal or about sentence structure. If right now its is so mucked up and we are still using different words for these different levels of involvement - whats going to happen when we are all defined by the same term.


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02 Dec 2012, 9:55 pm

FightingAspie wrote:
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Must meet criteria A, B, C, and D:

A. Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across contexts, not accounted for by general developmental delays, and manifest by all 3 of the following:
1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity; ranging from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back and forth conversation through reduced sharing of interests, emotions, and affect and response to total lack of initiation of social interaction,
2. Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction; ranging from poorly integrated- verbal and nonverbal communication, through abnormalities in eye contact and body-language, or deficits in understanding and use of nonverbal communication, to total lack of facial expression or gestures.
3. Deficits in developing and maintaining relationships, appropriate to developmental level (beyond those with caregivers); ranging from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit different social contexts through difficulties in sharing imaginative play and in making friends to an apparent absence of interest in people

B. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. Stereotyped or repetitive speech, motor movements, or use of objects; (such as simple motor stereotypies, echolalia, repetitive use of objects, or idiosyncratic phrases).
2. Excessive adherence to routines, ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior, or excessive resistance to change; (such as motoric rituals, insistence on same route or food, repetitive questioning or extreme distress at small changes).
3. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus; (such as strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).
4. Hyper-or hypo-reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of environment; (such as apparent indifference to pain/heat/cold, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, fascination with lights or spinning objects).

C. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities)

D. Symptoms together limit and impair everyday functioning.

it's obvious that some powers-that-be are trying to limit the number of dx'ed people via tighter criteria ["must meet criteria A, B, C & D"], for whatever reason. maybe to curb social services expenditures?



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02 Dec 2012, 9:55 pm

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Yay I hate that stupid "aspie" term people always use on here. :D


Yeah I'm pretty sure they'll just use another term instead which will end up just as bad or worse :/
it's how people work sadly


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02 Dec 2012, 9:56 pm

i LIKE aspie :D it sounds friendly to me.



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02 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

You need 3 of 3 instead of 2 of 4 for the social domain
2 of 4 instead of 1 of 4 for the repetitive domain

Not much difference. I bet most tended to meet more than the minimum required anyway.



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02 Dec 2012, 10:18 pm

Also, the social and repetitive domains include symptoms that weren't in the DSM-IV but are fairly common among autistic people (for example, sensory issues are in the RRB domain).

Other features - such as late speech - are not a strict part of the social/communication domain. They are a part, but they're listed along with other issues.



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02 Dec 2012, 10:27 pm

auntblabby wrote:
i LIKE aspie :D it sounds friendly to me.


sounds like a pet or kiddie name to me, fairly demeaning in that regard I might add.


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02 Dec 2012, 10:53 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Also, the social and repetitive domains include symptoms that weren't in the DSM-IV but are fairly common among autistic people (for example, sensory issues are in the RRB domain).


Yes. Hyper and/or hypo sensory dysfunction seems to be almost universal, at least to some extent, so that's a "free" one people can tick off (then it's the same as the DSM-IV-TR in the repetitive domain, just worded better).

They obviously agree that deficits in social reciprocity and nonverbal cues go together, seeing as you need both (all accounts I've read point to both being present in pretty much most of those with AS or AD). Hans and Kanner point out the same. You didn't need both in the DSM-IV-TR, but I'd like to see someone with AS or AD who doesn't have both to some extent.



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03 Dec 2012, 4:51 am

Henbane wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
The term Asperger's Disorder will be dropped from the diagnostic manual next year.
In the new manual only the term Autistic and Autism will remain.

Aspies will be demoted to Autie.

ruveyn


Do you really believe this is a demotion, or are you just trying to illicit a specific type of response from people?


More than likely the latter.