Reporting people with Aspergers to the police?

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18 Dec 2012, 3:08 am

This is EXACTLY why I put so much effort into hiding my condition from everyone.

Because people are so immature that they would rather throw me out of society like a rabid animal than try to understand and accept me.



And they say NT's are supposed to be the "normal" ones :roll:


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18 Dec 2012, 3:24 am

These people have too much oxytocin.



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18 Dec 2012, 4:59 am

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Someone reported a "Suspicious Person" to the police in a town near to Newtown. He turned out to be a man carrying an umbrella on his way to work.

I shudder to think what would have happened to the man if the police had actually seen him twirling is unfurled brumby or propping it against his shoulder.


A few years ago in the UK a man was walking home carrying an antique table leg after having it repaired. It was wrapped in plain paper. Someone reported him carrying a gun and the police shot him dead.


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18 Dec 2012, 5:10 am

TallyMan wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Someone reported a "Suspicious Person" to the police in a town near to Newtown. He turned out to be a man carrying an umbrella on his way to work.

I shudder to think what would have happened to the man if the police had actually seen him twirling is unfurled brumby or propping it against his shoulder.


A few years ago in the UK a man was walking home carrying an antique table leg after having it repaired. It was wrapped in plain paper. Someone reported him carrying a gun and the police shot him dead.


Exactly, it's ignorance like this (not you, the reports that people give lol) that makes stuff like this a problem. It's an injustice that needs to be taken care of, and this is a prime example of how people's ignorance and fear effect people who're doing nothing wrong.
Thank you for sharing this (both of you).


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18 Dec 2012, 5:31 am

Jaden wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Someone reported a "Suspicious Person" to the police in a town near to Newtown. He turned out to be a man carrying an umbrella on his way to work.

I shudder to think what would have happened to the man if the police had actually seen him twirling is unfurled brumby or propping it against his shoulder.


A few years ago in the UK a man was walking home carrying an antique table leg after having it repaired. It was wrapped in plain paper. Someone reported him carrying a gun and the police shot him dead.


Exactly, it's ignorance like this (not you, the reports that people give lol) that makes stuff like this a problem. It's an injustice that needs to be taken care of, and this is a prime example of how people's ignorance and fear effect people who're doing nothing wrong.
Thank you for sharing this (both of you).
The story that Tallyman mentioned popped into my head too, when I read Fnord's post. The info given to the police was completely wrong. They said the man was Irish, when he was Scottish (not that it should matter anyway) and that he was thought to be carrying a gun, when it was a broken table. Here's the news report of the incident http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3974461.stm


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18 Dec 2012, 5:38 am

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There's going to be sooooooooo many pissed off cops if more people start calling in innocent Autistic people. It's just wasting the cops time and using up taxpayer money. In fact, I'm sure it's illegal to misuse 9-1-1 like that.


My job is tangentially related to law enforcement and I have spoken with police officers on occasion about frivolous calls on their tip line. Thankfully the police are well accustomed to that sort of report and use a triage approach to separating out legitimate complaints from ridiculous ones. They are far too busy with real emergencies to humour stupid reports from idiots. A phone operator receiving a call along the lines of, "there is an autistic child I know who behaves very strangely, i am concerned," would ask if the person is A) currently in the process of committing an illegal act, B) is actively threatening to commit an illegal act either at this time or in the future, C) is acting erratically in a way that suggests he may be an immediate risk to himself or to others. If it's 'no' to all of those questions the police will politely take your report but will not send an officer out to investigate.


My usual call to the police is to report cattle or horses on the highway. And that's only if I don't know who owns the cattle or horses. If I know who owns them, I call the owner instead.



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18 Dec 2012, 8:41 am

eric76 wrote:
I couldn't believe it when I saw this comment at http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/expert-aspergers-syndrome-unfairly-scapegoated-for-newtown-school-massacre/:

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There's a really, really weird teenager who attends my church. He has Aspergers. Yesterday I reported his odd behavior, along with several examples of strange stuff he has done and said, to the police. It's worth reporting this kid to authorities now that I know how dangerous his disorder can be.


I am actually at that site staring at that comment at this very moment. That comment has 1 like and 8 dislikes which makes a like-dislike gap of -7. I noticed your response to him in that article has 16 likes and only 2 dislikes which makes a like-dislike gap of +14. So basically, a lot of people (including NTs) disagreed with the dude who made the original comment and agreed with your response to it. I agree with you too. He's a bigger threat to this 'weird teen' than the 'weird teen' is to him in the sense that the dude who originally made the comment is trying to get the 'weird teen' arrested and ruin his life whereas the 'weird teen' hasn't done a single thing to the guy that even made him want to report him to the cops. Either the dude got the wrong impression (from articles on the Newtown shooting) that people with Asperger's or any other form of high-functioning autism are dangerous criminals or he is a troll.



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18 Dec 2012, 9:02 am

TallyMan wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Someone reported a "Suspicious Person" to the police in a town near to Newtown. He turned out to be a man carrying an umbrella on his way to work.

I shudder to think what would have happened to the man if the police had actually seen him twirling is unfurled brumby or propping it against his shoulder.


A few years ago in the UK a man was walking home carrying an antique table leg after having it repaired. It was wrapped in plain paper. Someone reported him carrying a gun and the police shot him dead.


Pfft. In the US you don't even need to be carrying anything. They shoot kids (teenagers) here after they cuff them and have them face down on the ground. I was almost shot by the police when I was a teen because according to them I resembled someone they were looking for. Yes I resembled some other poor teen, driving some other piece of s**t $500 car, that they wanted to shoot.



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18 Dec 2012, 10:23 am

Jaden wrote:

A few years ago in the UK a man was walking home carrying an antique table leg after having it repaired. It was wrapped in plain paper. Someone reported him carrying a gun and the police shot him dead.


I actually worked in the offices of CO19 at the time that happened (my dad was a chief inspector in the met working there and got me a data entry job in the offices) and there was a lot more to it than that.


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18 Dec 2012, 10:40 am

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I actually worked in the offices of CO19 at the time that happened (my dad was a chief inspector in the met working there and got me a data entry job in the offices) and there was a lot more to it than that.


Despite whatever more there was to say, the guy was just carrying a table leg and the police killed him.


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18 Dec 2012, 10:50 am

TallyMan wrote:
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I actually worked in the offices of CO19 at the time that happened (my dad was a chief inspector in the met working there and got me a data entry job in the offices) and there was a lot more to it than that.


Despite whatever more there was to say, the guy was just carrying a table leg and the police killed him.


He was carrying a table leg wrapped in a bin liner, he was pointing it at people as if it was a shotgun in a confrontational manner. The thing that got him killed though is when he did the same to police when they arrived and told him more than once to put it down. You cant expect police to risk their lives and the lives of others on the basis of what ifs. He was also off his face on drugs and alcohol. If he did have a gun and the police took no action and someone ended up being shot they would have been criticised too. Damned if they do damned if they dont.

If you were going to talk about a situation where the police acted in the wrong way you could have at least used Jean Charles de Menezes. Even the police admit they acted wrongly in that incident.


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18 Dec 2012, 11:49 am

eric76 wrote:
I couldn't believe it when I saw this comment at http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/expert-aspergers-syndrome-unfairly-scapegoated-for-newtown-school-massacre/:

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There's a really, really weird teenager who attends my church. He has Aspergers. Yesterday I reported his odd behavior, along with several examples of strange stuff he has done and said, to the police. It's worth reporting this kid to authorities now that I know how dangerous his disorder can be.


And can you believe this comment in the article: "Some even said he had Asperger’s syndrome."

As if being awkward was bad enough, but how extreme and awful that he apparently had Asperger's, as if it's a really bad insult or something or having AS is synonymous with being a monster!

and "Kim Stagliano is the managing editor of Age Of Autism, a daily newsletter about autism spectrum disorders", even said:

“I think until we see proof that he was formally diagnosed by a professional with Asperger’s, the conversation can really only be harmful to families who have children and adults who are anywhere on the spectrum right now,” Stagliano told WCBS 880 on Monday."

So basically only if he was diagnosed with AS is the correlation between his actions and AS harmful!


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18 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

Do we know the last time the shooter went bowling?



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18 Dec 2012, 1:41 pm

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This is EXACTLY why I put so much effort into hiding my condition from everyone. Because people are so immature that they would rather throw me out of society like a rabid animal than try to understand and accept me.

Ditto.

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And they say NT's are supposed to be the "normal" ones :roll:

They seem to be in the majority, thus they retain all of the authority to decide and act on how they will treat us.



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18 Dec 2012, 1:47 pm

All because dumb people have to believe that Aspies lack empathy. I may get angry with people in general (not personally) at times, even over things that they can't control, like:-

-picking up nasty viruses like norovirus and spreading it
-not being able to cope when they spot someone in the street who's not quite conforming to NT standards but is otherwise as normal as the next person
-being so greedy with money that their business ends up packing up and lots of people lose their jobs
-voting for stupid government (all government are crap, but if I had to vote for any party, it would be Labour)
-claiming they got empathy and then doing something completely unempathetic (ie, hurting someone's feelings and not caring or feeling guilty about it)
-taking the piss out of others for the most stupidest things, like not drinking alcohol

....but that doesn't mean I am capable of murder. I do hate the way human's minds work, and I do sometimes yell ''I'm gonna kill!! !'' but I've heard plenty of people yell that but would never even dream of murdering anybody. I pulled out a knife from a donation bag in the charity shop (where I volunteer), and the thought of killing somebody with it did not even enter my head. I just was worried about where I should put it for safety. And I can't stop crying about that f****r that went into that elementary school and killed off those innocent children and teachers. Why couldn't the f****r have shot himself before going into the school to murder all of those lovely people? The children were just about to make Christmas gingerbread houses.....oh God, I'm crying now...... :cry: :cry: :cry:


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18 Dec 2012, 2:07 pm

Why dont we respond in kind?
I'm all for reporting bullies
Instead of letting them get away with their beastly ways
Contact the authorities about their hurtful intent
Bring it on
They are the ones who force aspies into isolation
And a life of suffering