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09 Jan 2013, 6:58 pm

SSRIs are quite dangerous and can cause long-term damage that can persist even after you stop taking them.

They wrecked my sex drive and it has taken a long time to recover (on the order of 5 years).

Look up PSSD (Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction) for an example of what can happen. There are lots of people out there who are suicidal because they can no longer have sex after taking SSRIs. People with methylation problems or other genetic sensitivities might be even more susceptible to SSRI damage.

In lieu of SSRIs, try supporting your methylation cycle. Get tested for your Yasko methylation genes from 23andme (google it all), and then take the methylation support required for your genomic profile. And that will support proper production of neurotransmitters and better mood.

Methylfolate (active folate) is a great treatment for depression and anxiety, yet it is rarely suggested. about 30% of the population has defective MTHFR genes and doesn't get enough active folate and that can lead to mental illness and social isolation. Regular folate (not methylfolate) can be harmful to this group.

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11 Jan 2013, 8:14 pm

Thanks for the info plant14. I hope more people read this topic and consider natural alternatives before jumping into SSRIs.

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14 Jan 2013, 11:32 am

Coming up on a week and I must say, it's made a world of difference. In general, my default mood is much less melencholy and a bit more sanguine than it was before. I'm much less anxious in general. My sex drive has lowered a bit but it was high to begin with so now it's about average. A lot of my repetative behaviors (pacing especially) have been greatly reduced.

The thing is, I've only been taking 25mg (half of a small pill) which is only 1/4 of the dose the Dr percribed for me. I'm probably going to stick to that because I'm afraid to imagine what 100mg of the stuff could do to me. I can definetly see the other side of the argument in this regard.

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14 Jan 2013, 12:06 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:

I'd give it a second thought before going on SSRI for several reasons.

First of all how bad is your anxiety? Is it crippling? It sounds like you're looking for a minor anxiety reduction. If that's the case then SSRI would be a bad idea.

Second how much is your doctor aware of your anxiety? I think a doctor should spend a lot more time with a patient then just one session to make such a big decision or otherwise his only job would be to just try and sell you and orange bottle. Have you worked on other options with your doctor in the past?

I dunno anything about your situation but your post make it sound like this may spell trouble. My personal experience with SSRI has often been the result of extremely uneducated and careless professionals who cared more about selling me the drug then they were about keeping track of my condition. That is the big thing I think you should be concerned with when going on any medication.

same here

and I recommend to read "Anatomy of an Epidemic" by Robert Whitaker

I'm glad small doses have helped you for now. Avoid consuming too much of that drug.

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14 Jan 2013, 12:47 pm

Arrow wrote:

I'm glad small doses have helped you for now. Avoid consuming too much of that drug.

My anxiety isn't crippling (but it's persistant) which is why I think a small dose is all I need.

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14 Jan 2013, 1:24 pm

plant14 wrote:

In lieu of SSRIs, try supporting your methylation cycle. Get tested for your Yasko methylation genes from 23andme (google it all), and then take the methylation support required for your genomic profile. And that will support proper production of neurotransmitters and better mood.

Methylfolate (active folate) is a great treatment for depression and anxiety, yet it is rarely suggested. about 30% of the population has defective MTHFR genes and doesn't get enough active folate and that can lead to mental illness and social isolation. Regular folate (not methylfolate) can be harmful to this group.

How about no?

http://www.mthfrease.com/mthfr/2012/12/ ... ntroversy/
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-1 ... regulators
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... s-say.html

Quote:

There’s just one problem: the DNA tests and related treatments have scant backing from science and U.S. government officials. They’re untested, unproven, and may constitute “health fraud,” doctors, regulators and concerned parents said.

For alternative-medicine providers in general, the genetic tests are nothing but a “marketing tool” to sell unproven treatments, said James Laidler, a retired physician and adjunct professor at Portland State University whose 19-year-old autistic son has tried alternative therapies.

“You always hear the testimonials from the people who got better, not the people who stayed the same or got worse,” Laidler said. “They don’t want to hear somebody saying this is snake oil.”

Doctors and clinics across the U.S. are using the exploding science of DNA testing to feed anxieties and sell hope to people with autism and other hard-to-treat disorders.

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14 Jan 2013, 2:23 pm

Geekonychus wrote:

Arrow wrote:

I'm glad small doses have helped you for now. Avoid consuming too much of that drug.

My anxiety isn't crippling (but it's persistant) which is why I think a small dose is all I need.

I started trying lysine against my anxieties.
So far no side effects, but I have to take it a while longer to be sure that it helps.

My anxiety level is down a lot, but I have so much fluctuating stress at the moment that I can't be sure that it's from the lysine.

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14 Jan 2013, 8:23 pm

Geekonychus wrote:

*Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and am not qualified to give any advice regarding medication. The following opinion should not be taken as medical advice. Always consult with your doctor about this sort of thing.

Your doctor started you on 100mg? That's a little odd. Usual starting dose is 50mg. By all means inform your doctor of the effects you are experiencing at 25mg, see what he/she has to say. If you continue to feel benefits at 25mg there isn't any reason to increase. The idea with psych meds is to find a balance between positive effects and negative side effects with the dosage. It's sort of a balancing act you have to do. If dosage increase results in same positives but worse negatives, then go back to original dosage etc.

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15 Jan 2013, 9:57 am

MrStewart wrote:

Your doctor started you on 100mg? That's a little odd. Usual starting dose is 50mg. By all means inform your doctor of the effects you are experiencing at 25mg, see what he/she has to say. If you continue to feel benefits at 25mg there isn't any reason to increase. The idea with psych meds is to find a balance between positive effects and negative side effects with the dosage. It's sort of a balancing act you have to do. If dosage increase results in same positives but worse negatives, then go back to original dosage etc.

He started me out at 50 and eveidently I'm supposed to start switching over to 100 soon but I don't think I will. I took 50 today and I'll probably switch back to 25 tonight.

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