Do you find it hard showing your authority?

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19 Jan 2013, 6:15 am

Yes it is hard for me showing authority too, as usually its a sign of aggression even though its not necessarily so in the real world. But I do have a real hard job commanding authority as its not in my nature to be that way. It's something I have to work on and try and figure out a happy medium.


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21 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

YES.

Whenever I am with children or adults with disabilities, I tend to see myself as someone like them rather than someone who has power over them. This has gotten me criticized a lot in terms of when I was employed in with these settings: people have told me to "act less like their friend and more like their worker". I think it's because I have higher empathy for people like with disabilities than most people do: I really resonate with people who are bossed around and I just want to show them that I've been there, and I get it.

I mentor other people on the autism spectrum, and this is the way I treat them as well: not in the sense that I have clear authority over them and view everything they do as wrong, but by supporting them and encouraging them as a peer who understands them.

I feel that a lot of people who work with people with differences/disabilities are in this line of work because I they genuinely enjoy bossing people around. They are very harsh with them and get a sense of satisfaction when they have power over them. While these jobs do involve exercising a bit of authority when the person IS doing something wrong, I feel it is wrong when those with clear power view everything the person does as wrong and even warns the person and anticipates "bad" behavior from them. The kind of message are they sending these people is that the way they are is faulty and should be "fixed". This needs to end. These are human beings! If it were up to me, these people would be fired, no matter how many credentials or pieces of paper they have. /rant


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21 Jan 2013, 2:04 pm

I don't know, I sort of find it to be a flawed concept.


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22 Jan 2013, 1:44 am

Rascal77s wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
This is another thing I have realised about myself, and I'm not sure if it's related to having underaverage social skills or not. I can't speak for everybody here, since some people with ASDs might think having or showing authority helps with their social skills and makes them more confident around people, but for me this isn't the case at all. Knowing I have authority just makes me want to just hide away.

It's probably the reason why I didn't want to work somewhere where I have to deal with customers. It's not so much serving people in general, it's more so dealing with difficult customers. This is why I would make a crappy security guard. If I was to work at an airport as a security guard, I think I would probably let the place get bombed!

I worked with small children, aged 2 to 4, a couple of years ago, and I found it so hard to show authority over them, even though I knew they weren't obnoxious and wouldn't eat me alive like teenagers would. I was just too afraid to tell them off for anything, and I found myself backing away nervously and letting them do anything they wanted. Lucky there were other carers there, otherwise I would probably of let the children run riot.

That's another thing - I could be a carer at a care home. I work at a care home as a cleaner, and even that's quite difficult for me when I've got to clean a room where there's maybe a cantankerous person in the room, even though most old people (especially with Alzheimer's) won't judge me, and most lose their self-awareness and would forget who you are if you did do or say something weird. But it just feels irrationally hard to show my authority. Does anyone else feel like this, or is this just me being the most unconfident person in the world?


I think many people feel this way whether NT or ASD. My problem is being over confrontational and it has probably caused me as many problems as being under confrontational. I keep wondering if I have an undiagnosed PD, or at least traits, in addition to AS so I might not have the best perspective on this topic.


There doesn't have to be any contradiction between the two.

I have absolutely no natural (nor learnt) authority whatsoever. Yet I can be overly confrontational, in an unconstructive way.

I have no idea what makes people listen and obey, and I have no idea how to react if they don't.


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24 Jan 2013, 11:21 pm

I unfortunately relate a lot to this. I've a hard time expressing any kind of authority, no matter how angry I get. Sometimes it is to the point of abuse. I hate conflict too.

In the workplace, my coworker will systematically bully me, last time was humiliating as she was patronizing me while barely 20yo girl and I'm almost 10 yr older and male. I always wonder "why me"? I thought it was my charisma or credibility or lack thereof, I don't know.

When I enter an argument with someone, no matter how right I am, third party will always gang up against me. There is something called "legitimity" which is different from charisma. Legitimity is the "right" given to you by the social group to be "right" or "wrong". If you are badly placed in the hierarchy of your immediate social group (little brother, newcomer, subordinate, shorter...), you'll be wrong no matter what. Conversely, someone with high legitimity will be given the right by third party ("others") to act like a douche or a bully and get away with it.

I'm given "no" legitimity no matter what, so I'm wrong no matter what. I'm 32yo and still don't know how or why.



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24 Jan 2013, 11:32 pm

I'm better about it than I used to be. As a teacher, I have to be an authority figure all day. The kids usually figure out what they can and can't get away with me. They are usually cooperative because I work hard at making the class a good place for them to be. I know that I'm a pushover most of the time. Some of the rules, like the ones about cell phones, they walk all over me about because they know I don't agree with the draconian rules about cell phone usage, especially now that it's essentially a little computer in their pocket and my school district is in the dark ages when it comes to computers. But most of the rule-breaking I get is passive-aggressive or sneaky. I don't think any of them would dare be outright defiant toward me because they've formed bonds with me in most cases and in other cases they'd get the disapproval of the rest of the class.