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cyberdad
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18 Feb 2013, 12:53 am

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This is true, but neither myself nor the authors mentioned the word correlation. I think the word used was "association"...

The two words are synonymous.

Associations are not causally related, either - they're coincidental proximations of incidental data; only this, and nothing more.

I think the data on the 27 genes presents a weak correlation with people with ASD which in scientific terms is an association. The scientists are flagging their finding in order to a) publish their work and b) attract interest in funding their study further to investigate if the association has some underlying basis.



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22 Feb 2013, 1:24 pm

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But if the fact that he reports - that 27 genetic variations are in someway associated with aspergers and autism (ie they correlate with being on the spectrum and not with not being on the spectrum) then that would be rather significant.


Except it's nothing new. We know many autism-related genes already. As in, several hundred different genes have been linked to autism in at least some cases.

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I'm not particularly a science girl but doesn't a gene mutation create a new breed in the animal world. Any scientists to answer me?


No. In fact, pretty much everyone has at least one mutation that is 'de novo', ie not inherited from either parent.



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22 Feb 2013, 3:05 pm

Eh. It's another opinion piece, that's all. Collective Evolution does a lot of them. Pretty New Agey.

On the whole, it's an opinion I agree with-- not so much that we're the next step in human evolution (a theory my hubby likes to put forth when I get down on myself-- So what am I, you big strong Australopithecine, your pet Cro-Magnon?? Piss off.) as that we're just people, just different people, and maybe it's not such a good idea to dismiss us as "ret*d," "deficient," "disabled," basically something to be fixed and pitied and laughed at behind the hands, rather than fellow creatures with equal dignity to be respected.

Well, while I'm dreaming, maybe my children will play nicely together and the dishes will wash themselves.


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