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Do you think that a place for positive and inspirational tales from members is a good idea?
Yes - It would give people something to aim for, and show them that things can get better 63%  63%  [ 45 ]
No - That's just bragging 18%  18%  [ 13 ]
Maybe - please post reason below 18%  18%  [ 13 ]
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15 Feb 2013, 6:10 pm

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I've seen multiple threads on this negativity and I *still* cannot see all the negativity other people are seeing... Maybe my posts can be perceived as negative although all I'm looking for are answers and statistics and other people's personal views/experiences. I dunno. I know that when I'm feeling my lowest, I do not post. And if I did, I think I'd probably post a depressive rant in Haven.


I know, I don't get it either. Maybe there are two types of Aspie, those who can pick up intentions from the written word and those who can't - clearly we fall into the latter category if so. Maybe those complaining about the negativity are those jolly, bouncy types who can only see things through rose-coloured spectacles and anything not meeting their view of the world is perceived as negative. And you know, I'm sure I read somewhere that the so-called pessimists of this world are actually the realists.


Sometimes I think that people are only happy if they read about successes, and anything less than that is seen as negative.

I have never really perceived this forum as negative. I have seen some posters post really negative threads, but those don't seem to dominate the forum.



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15 Feb 2013, 7:08 pm

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Do you think that a place for positive and inspirational tales from members is a good idea?

Maybe ... most likely not. No one seems inspired by my "inspirational" tales. Instead, I'm told that my posts are crap, full of unnecessary drama, and that they clutter up threads. Here is the "Extra Info" from my WP profile:
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Officially diagnosed at age 52, after earning an MSEE degree, getting married, fathering children, serving in the military, and holding down a job. I have investigated many claims of paranormal ability and activity, and found them all to be bogus.

Is anyone inspired? I doubt it. They're more likely to complain that I'm being insensitive and lacking in compassion, than to accept anything I post in a way that is inspirational and thought-provoking.

So do you think that all it would do is inspire jealousy then?

No. I hope that it would inspire others to believe that their diagnoses do not define them, and that they could possibly overcome whatever limitations their particular form of AS/ASD might impose.

Not everybody can overcome their limitations, but for those who can, I hope that they will at least try.

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For me, your inspirational tales make no sense to me and I have a difficult time following the rationale behind them. Metaphorically, they don't tell me how to grow food or change a tire.

If you want to learn how to grow food or change a tyre, then you should ask. Otherwise, there is no guaranty that your particular interests or needs will be addressed.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt206352.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4966538.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt206057.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt223173.html

Ok, I will bite. Will you please take some time out of your busy schedule and critique my writings and if my rationale is off will you please show me?



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15 Feb 2013, 7:15 pm

Just a little self-obsessive, but that's normal.

Verdandi wrote:
I have never really perceived this forum as negative. I have seen some posters post really negative threads, but those don't seem to dominate the forum.


Bias. The threads you deem negative are the ones you have a personal dislike of. :twisted:



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15 Feb 2013, 9:39 pm

I would be in favor of a "positivity forum," with the stipulation that those who post in it must explain the specific things they did to accomplish their goal in a clear and precise manner.

I don't care much to read about others' good fortune or dumb luck without a little insight into what brought about their success. It's not that it would induce jealousy in me; I'd just find such a thread boring.

OP, you should talk to a mod about getting that started and sticky'd to the front page.

(On an unrelated note, aren't some of the existing stickies fairly old, outdated and abandoned? I think some of them need to be removed; they take up a third of the page.)



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15 Feb 2013, 10:05 pm

Acedia wrote:
Just a little self-obsessive, but that's normal.

Verdandi wrote:
I have never really perceived this forum as negative. I have seen some posters post really negative threads, but those don't seem to dominate the forum.


Bias. The threads you deem negative are the ones you have a personal dislike of. :twisted:
If someone wrote a post about how much life with gonorrhea sucks, is it a negative post or do you just dislike gonorrhea personally?



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15 Feb 2013, 11:03 pm

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I would be in favor of a "positivity forum," with the stipulation that those who post in it must explain the specific things they did to accomplish their goal in a clear and precise manner.

I don't care much to read about others' good fortune or dumb luck without a little insight into what brought about their success. It's not that it would induce jealousy in me; I'd just find such a thread boring.

OP, you should talk to a mod about getting that started and sticky'd to the front page.

(On an unrelated note, aren't some of the existing stickies fairly old, outdated and abandoned? I think some of them need to be removed; they take up a third of the page.)


exactly



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16 Feb 2013, 3:59 am

I said maybe, because I don't really think so, but not because it has anything to do with bragging per se, but rather that I can't imagine us actually reading many of them. The aspies I know, myself included, prefer straight facts and have little time for mushy stories, in fact, mushy stories make me squirm. Not to mention the fact that there's nothing stopping people from posting inspirational stories on the current boards.


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16 Feb 2013, 7:13 am

Then again, if there was a specific place for them, people would know where to look! As I'm in the UK, I've only just had the chance to catch up on what's been said in here overnight, and that would be way too many posts to address individually.

Seems to me that the main concensus is that it could be a good idea if the nuts and bolts of how a particular goal was achieved are explained in such a way that other folks could maybe take something useful from it.

For instance, I've improved my social interactions with both other staff and patients in my work by getting a mentor. This chap doesn't KNOW he's a mentor though. I simply watch, listen and try to learn whenever I'm working with him because he has the best social skills I've ever seen, period. He can put anyone at ease, and within a half hour he's their long lost buddy! It's uncanny.

But posts on how things are going well could also be a good thing. Not everyone would want to read those though, so maybe two threads- one for achievements, how you did it and the hurdles that had to overcome, and maybe a "Yay! I'm having a great day!" thread to allow for a place that's full of happy....



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16 Feb 2013, 8:09 am

As a new member I read a number of posts on WP and found some of it 'negative' at first, however I can understand as sometimes you just have to 'vent' (as another poster mentioned, not something they might do elsewhere whether it's online or in real life). Another thing I find is that the bad things in life are a bit more noticeable than the good things, and I often bring up the bad things with my friends in an attempt to try to resolve them, improve myself or otherwise. Though I firmly believe that it's a good thing to be positive, and I've found it's helped me a lot, though I can imagine some people might say 'it's easier said than done'. Still, I think a subforum for positive things would be a good thing and if people don't like it they can choose not to use it.



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16 Feb 2013, 8:51 am

Soooo... I just realised that I'm a bit of an idiot and should have examined the threads in the Haven more closely. *facepalm*

It appears there are a couple of threads with a positive spin in there.

Maybe the Haven isn't the right place?

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For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Discuss all those issues that are not covered by the other forums in the Coping in life category.


So that would suggest that the Haven is for when you're down, not when you're happy!

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that people are being deliberately negative on purpose, simply that when you're down it's natural to want to vent more. The more this is discussed, the more I'm thinking that a "Happy Place" subforum would be a good idea :)



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16 Feb 2013, 8:51 am

I know what you mean, OP. It can become rather depressing around here at times, but I think WP seems reasonably positive at the moment. I tend to drift away when things get too negative.

People definitely need a place to vent, though, and some people here don't have anyone to talk to about their emotions in their lives outside of the site.



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16 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

I completely agree with that, Kuribo. I am certainly not suggesting that people shouldn't vent when they're feeling down. It's a healthy thing to do, especially if you have nobody in your life that you feel you can talk to. Al;so, talking to people that you know will understand is extremely helpful.

I'm just suggesting that a balance might be good. So that if someone is happy, having a good time of it and wants to share that, they could have a place to do that where they wouldn't get shot down for being all bouncy and happy....



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16 Feb 2013, 11:55 am

I'm fairly new here, but I don't find the WP discussions overtly negative. I like the honesty and directness of it all, I miss this straightforwardness in real life.

I voted "maybe" because some people may be able to benefit from positive feedback, it could be a place to ask on how to deal with specific issues or how others on the spectrum overcame a particular problem. On the other hand these questions could be addressed in a positive manner elsewhere in the forum depending on the subject.


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16 Feb 2013, 12:45 pm

Kelspook wrote:
Soooo... I just realised that I'm a bit of an idiot and should have examined the threads in the Haven more closely. *facepalm*

It appears there are a couple of threads with a positive spin in there.

Maybe the Haven isn't the right place?

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For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Discuss all those issues that are not covered by the other forums in the Coping in life category.


So that would suggest that the Haven is for when you're down, not when you're happy!

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that people are being deliberately negative on purpose, simply that when you're down it's natural to want to vent more. The more this is discussed, the more I'm thinking that a "Happy Place" subforum would be a good idea :)


Well if you're basing your opinion of the level of negativity on this site on 'The Haven' which is specifically for venting and talking about problems your having...no wonder you think it has an over-all negative tone.


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16 Feb 2013, 1:03 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Soooo... I just realised that I'm a bit of an idiot and should have examined the threads in the Haven more closely. *facepalm*

It appears there are a couple of threads with a positive spin in there.

Maybe the Haven isn't the right place?

Quote:
The Haven
For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Discuss all those issues that are not covered by the other forums in the Coping in life category.


So that would suggest that the Haven is for when you're down, not when you're happy!

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that people are being deliberately negative on purpose, simply that when you're down it's natural to want to vent more. The more this is discussed, the more I'm thinking that a "Happy Place" subforum would be a good idea :)


Well if you're basing your opinion of the level of negativity on this site on 'The Haven' which is specifically for venting and talking about problems your having...no wonder you think it has an over-all negative tone.


That's not what I said. I was alluding to the fact that I had missed those two threads, for all I've been here for quite a while- in essence admitting that I had made an error. And basically pointing out that someone looking for happy positive stuff is probably NOT going to look for that in the Haven. I also didn't say that the whole site was negative, only that the positive voices seem to be drowned out by the volume of people having a bad time of it! I also stated that I think it's important that people have somewhere to vent those sad/depressive/anxious/angry/despairing feelings, and that the Haven is fantastic for serving that purpose.

My suggestion was meant to enable those who are positive souls with an optimistic outlook to be easily found by others like them, to give them a clear voice, and allow others who want to know HOW they've achieved that state to ask them if they want to. I was also hoping that these people could maybe help those who are sad.



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16 Feb 2013, 3:57 pm

Rascal77s wrote:
If someone wrote a post about how much life with gonorrhea sucks, is it a negative post or do you just dislike gonorrhea personally?


Gonorrhea does suck though, so I wouldn't think it was negative at all for someone to make a thread about how it sucks to have it.

Usually people have a personal dislike of threads in which the op makes a thread about a subject matter that is contentious, controversial or just something that happens to disagree with the person's worldview. So they'll simply disregard that thread as "negative".

Which is subjective.