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09 Apr 2013, 6:43 pm

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More myths that many Aspies believe:[list][*] "A self-diagnosis is just as good as, or better than any diagnosis by an appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professional."


* That some guy on a forum who doesn't even have an education in psychology is a better judge of whether self-diagnosis can be accurate or not than internationally recognized experts on autism with multiple publications on that topic to their name* who are known to say things like "if you think you're autistic, you probably are."

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09 Apr 2013, 7:17 pm

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Fnord wrote:
More myths that many Aspies believe:[list][*] "A self-diagnosis is just as good as, or better than any diagnosis by an appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professional."


* That some guy on a forum who doesn't even have an education in psychology is a better judge of whether self-diagnosis can be accurate or not than internationally recognized experts on autism with multiple publications on that topic to their name* who are known to say things like "if you think you're autistic, you probably are."

* Tony Attwood


There seems to be something wrong here.

You seem to question if a self-diagnosis can be accurate.

A diagnosis by an appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professional would be more likely to be accurate. A self-diagnosis can also be accurate and has led some people (quite a number) to have the diagnosis confirmed by a professional.

You would expect to have a greater degree of confidence in professional diagnosis, but professionals can and do get it wrong. This can be seen in people seeing a number of professionals until they get the diagnosis they can agree with.



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09 Apr 2013, 7:25 pm

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# Empathy means compassion


That's not an aspie misconception, it's a general misconception, which is why "aspies lack empathy" is such a dangerous phrase.



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09 Apr 2013, 7:42 pm

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# Empathy means compassion


That's not an aspie misconception, it's a general misconception, which is why "aspies lack empathy" is such a dangerous phrase.


Yeah, it makes it sound like Asperger's makes us capable of hurting people and not feeling a thing... not true.



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09 Apr 2013, 8:17 pm

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More myths that many Aspies believe:[list][*] "A self-diagnosis is just as good as, or better than any diagnosis by an appropriately-trained and licensed mental-health professional."


Including the types of professionals who say you can't have AS because as a child, you didn't wet the bed, start fires and torture small animals?


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09 Apr 2013, 8:29 pm

Aspies would be able to run the world just as well as NTs.
Aspies just don't fit into NT society, if society suited Aspies than NTs would be the disabled ones.
It's the NTs that need curing!

Whilst I think society would be better for Aspies if there were more of us, if we dominated then our communication issues would hinder us and the NTs would outcompete us in a Darwinian sense very quickly (by evolutionary standards).

On the other side of the coin:

Autism is a "curse"
There are no benefits to autism for any autistic individuals



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09 Apr 2013, 8:34 pm

Many aspies believe that NTs have no logic? That really the case? Doesn't sound right to me.


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09 Apr 2013, 8:55 pm

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Many aspies believe that NTs have no logic?


Yes, many aspies, because we're not able to intuit the reasons and purposes behind NTs' social actions, conclude that there are no such reasons and purposes.


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09 Apr 2013, 9:18 pm

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Not much to add - I agree with most of X-Files Geek and Fnord's lists and they covered a lot.

- That all aspies are gifted or geniuses.

- That all apies have special talents that normal people don't have.

- That all aspies are good with technology and math.

- Asperger's is just a different way of thinking and not a disorder.


Actually, the bolded one might not be a myth, if by "different way of thinking" we could mean "different neurological processing style".


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10 Apr 2013, 1:15 am

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daydreamer84 wrote:
Not much to add - I agree with most of X-Files Geek and Fnord's lists and they covered a lot.

- That all aspies are gifted or geniuses.

- That all apies have special talents that normal people don't have.

- That all aspies are good with technology and math.

- Asperger's is just a different way of thinking and not a disorder.


Actually, the bolded one might not be a myth, if by "different way of thinking" we could mean "different neurological processing style".


Well, it's wrong to say that it's not a disorder or disability. It is a disability and a different neurology and processing style.



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10 Apr 2013, 1:19 am

*Aspie girls are all tomboys.
*Aspie girls never wear make up or style their hair.

*A magic panacea, quick fix for autism exists or is just waiting to be discovered. Explanation: They may find ways to treat some of the symptoms but not a cure.



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10 Apr 2013, 3:13 am

That Aspies have no sense of humor, don't get jokes or understand sarcasm.



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11 Apr 2013, 1:46 pm

Myth: Aspies argue with each other on WP, because Aspie.

I'm sure it's a factor that causes them to do that occasionally, in the same situations when they would argue with each other in person.
But more often I'm willing to bet that Aspies on WP argue with each other, because internets.



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11 Apr 2013, 1:52 pm

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Myth: Aspies argue with each other on WP, because Aspie.

I'm sure it's a factor that causes them to do that occasionally, in the same situations when they would argue with each other in person.
But more often I'm willing to bet that Aspies on WP argue with each other, because internets.


I'm going to guess that you meant "that Aspies on WP argue with each other, because it's the internet, and arguing is easier". Please correct me if I'm in error.

Yes, that's a huge myth. The idea that WP is a represenative of what are like in person.....does'nt work. In person, we all eat, we all breathe, we all have diamentions, we all have form. We're not just digital avatars throwing arguements back and forth.


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11 Apr 2013, 1:55 pm

There is a myth that Aspies are not capable of conducting their own affairs.


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11 Apr 2013, 2:22 pm

AgentPalpatine wrote:
ThetaIn3D wrote:
Myth: Aspies argue with each other on WP, because Aspie.

I'm sure it's a factor that causes them to do that occasionally, in the same situations when they would argue with each other in person.
But more often I'm willing to bet that Aspies on WP argue with each other, because internets.


I'm going to guess that you meant "that Aspies on WP argue with each other, because it's the internet, and arguing is easier". Please correct me if I'm in error.


Yep, that's right - my intent wasn't to make it confusing, I just wanted to use a popular internet grammatical construction. :)

The worst thing about the myth that Aspies can't conduct their own affairs is that, often, social awkwardness by itself is enough to convince people we need sheltering.