ASD with intellectual/learning disability

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Do you have an ASD with other learning difficulties?
Yes for both having an ASD and other learning difficulties 56%  56%  [ 36 ]
I don't know 19%  19%  [ 12 ]
No, ASD only 25%  25%  [ 16 ]
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daydreamer84
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21 Apr 2013, 4:26 pm

Verdandi wrote:
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I think now the way they identify LD is the discrepancy between your IQ and your academic performance. So if your writing were way below developmental level but you had a normal or high IQ that would be a learning disability in writing. They also look for discrepancies in your sub-scores on the IQ test.


IQ = tested at 145+
GPA = 1.0-2.0

A bit of a discrepancy there. :P

It would have been nice to have a more thorough, more useful evaluation like that.


Yeah, you'd definitely get LD accommodations if you had official testing that came out that way , nowadays.



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21 Apr 2013, 5:23 pm

I struggled more in school as I got older. Because of my learning problems, educators should have seen it and put me in special/resource classes. Instead I kept getting passed to the next grade without any of my learning and social impairment being noticed.

Mostly my grades were good, though my hand would hurt to use scissors or write (I did not think to let anyone know) and my handwriting and processing speed is slow. Throughout subjects there were certain things (such as math) that I would temporarily learn only to forget later. The next year I had to learn certain subject materials again, year after year.


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21 Apr 2013, 5:30 pm

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Yeah, you'd definitely get LD accommodations if you had official testing that came out that way , nowadays.


That's reassuring to know. Hopefully most don't go through what I did.



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21 Apr 2013, 5:39 pm

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Nonverbal Learning Disorder (NLD) --- which means difficulties with:

visual processing
sensory integration (listening to a lecture about something concrete and then applying it -- killed me in the military)
following directions
navigation
fine motor skills
not knocking things over
using technology
doing most everyday manual tasks
executive function/planning (though I have ways of adapting pretty well; I can mostly achieve the same results through instinct that most people achieve through conscious planning)


+1

Oh, and my working memory is below average. I can "think" or I can "do." I cannot do both at the same time. :D


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21 Apr 2013, 5:46 pm

WOW

I thought I was damaged, and I only have ASD, I feel bad for you who have all of the learning disorders too. :(



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21 Apr 2013, 6:28 pm

DVCal wrote:
WOW

I thought I was damaged, and I only have ASD, I feel bad for you who have all of the learning disorders too. :(


While it made school and other select parts of my life really frusterating at times, in general the subjects I was naturally really poor at were the ones I had no interest in anyway and the ones I did have a great deal of intrest in I was usually abnormally strong at or at least on par with everyone else. So it did work out for the most part. Also my Senior Kindergarden teachers and doctor wanted me moved up a grade becouse they apperantly thought I was gifted and bored, what a mistake that would have been though!

You can add me to the list of people who does not feel damaged, or at least not by AS anyway.



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21 Apr 2013, 6:28 pm

I its releated to my autism as well.

I mean even something as simple as walking took me like 5 times longer than normal kids. i actually got really fat as a child because it took me so long to learn to walk.

Its pretty annoyning having a malfuction brain, that is not only hard to learn, but if you dont use what you have learned you will forget it.

If i learn something and i dont use that for 3-4 weeks i will forget it.

Its like my brain is born with a 1gb harddrive, and everyone else has a 2TB disk.



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21 Apr 2013, 6:30 pm

Yep. In the 70's they called it Educationally Handicapped (EH) or as some of us EH kids called it, "empty head".

I'm Pretty sure these days it would be defined as NLD.



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21 Apr 2013, 6:39 pm

I don't know what all counts as learning disabilities...I have some dyspraxia and sensory processing disorder, but other than that all my learning issues are tied into autism and ADHD (executive functioning deficits, some language deficits, difficulty with complex information processing, slower processing speed).


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21 Apr 2013, 6:51 pm

DVCal wrote:
WOW

I thought I was damaged, and I only have ASD, I feel bad for you who have all of the learning disorders too. :(


When I started out learning about Asperger's; talking to folks on alt.support.autism and seeing videos about on it YouTube etc. I got the impression that the tradeoff of Asperger's is those most who had it were also rocket scientists.
The whole "Asperger's makes you smart" spiel. So of course I felt double cursed.
Not only did I have AS, but I was also left in the dust as far as being gifted in any way. Some of my childhood scholastic aptitude tests had me scoring at borderline ret*d.

I had to teach myself how to read at the age of 9. I remember being really upset that the school system was too stupid to teach me how to read properly. I'm pretty much a self educated person. It's like I have to translate curriculum into something that makes sense to me.

Verbally I've always come off as highly intelligent. I've been called things like a "walking encyclopedia" "a fountain of knowledge" "sounds like a professor" etc.
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21 Apr 2013, 7:44 pm

my low scors are of a 6 year old. my high scors are gifted. Mum was told this is a symtom of autism.



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21 Apr 2013, 11:09 pm

My scores would look alot like Verdandi's I think in all the achidemic subjects and thats with an IEP, not sure on the IQ if I would get 145 however I know it be a good score. I have been able to teach myself alot of really advanced programs, skills and concepts, some when I was still a chlid. I tought myself the real verson of Photoshop when I was 12 for example. Often the only way for me to get good grades was to know the materal prior to taking the class, math and english work that took everyone else 30min took me 1-1.5 hrs and my grade would still likely be 40-60%. I was really surprised how meny people here on WP are in the gifted range at the achidemics, I figured all autistics would have struggled at school like I did to get good grades, apparently not.

SkyHeart, thats exactly how I am, even the ages. My NT half brothers had me beat by the time they were 8-9(i'm 10-12 years older) in everything achidemic or physical education/sports.



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22 Apr 2013, 8:24 am

SkyHeart wrote:
my low scors are of a 6 year old. my high scors are gifted. Mum was told this is a symtom of autism.



I just know my working memory score was the lowest when I was adult tested (1%) and my other scores are very low average or low average. The only area I scored average in was verbal (with a 96). My attention to detail was scored very high average.


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22 Apr 2013, 1:52 pm

The scattered sub-scores aren't a symptom of autism but they are commonly seen among people with ASD. I have sub-scores ranging from the .04th percentile (something spatial/visual)-don't remember exactly what) to the 94th (vocabulary).



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22 Apr 2013, 10:05 pm

I'm supposedly high-functioning ASD. I was only diagnosed last year at 46 (self-diagnosed, then sought a professional).

I remember it took me 3 weeks to learn to ride my bike without crashing it, whereas my brother was only a week.

I was always a little slower to learn at school. I was kept back in grade 3 and so was always old for my class. High school I excelled at the manual/visual subjects, but struggled with the maths ones. I loved them, just struggle with them. English I was a total bomb, ended up getting average marks for vegi-english.

After that, engineering at collage. Martial arts, oil painting, music, programming, surfing.

I've found that anything I put my mind to, I can succeed at. This was quite a revelation to me. So I pick and choose what I want to do, and keep at it until I succeed. I love it.

PS: still can't spell for nuts. (thanks spell-checker)....