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31 May 2013, 4:12 pm

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Because if a person dug up those threads it might be for a salacious reason.



Reminds me of the time someone bumped a thread from 2005 in 2010 where William Fruend posted and I had no idea that person did it for an agenda so I got sucked into it by replying because I was also curious about that user and it got me into lots of trouble. I don't often think about peoples intentions when they do things. I just see what I see and have no opinion about it so I wouldn't even assume they did it to provoke people or did it for something bad. I always think people post just to post and do things for the same reasons I do things. I also assumed that person was curious too and someone else asking who his username was. Anyone who knew me knew I was just curious. I had no clue it was against the rules nor knew he was banned and I have seen several members mention his name afterwards and it seemed to be okay so I dunno. Confusing if the rules aren't absolute because when is it okay and not okay? Even a former mod mentioned his name when she had sent me a nasty PM about it when she was mod so I thought it was very hypocritical of her to even talk about him in one of her posts so I felt angry about it then.

I don't read between the lines easily like some aspies do so I would have no idea what they are implying or what their agenda is when they say things a certain way. All I see are the words.


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31 May 2013, 4:13 pm

Sorry, just messing with your marbles.
I'm really not bothered myself.
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31 May 2013, 4:16 pm

League_Girl thanks for explaining. That makes sense to me. I appreciate it. I'm NT (though probably closer to the spectrum than some, and also introverted) and this is a learning experience for me also.

neilson: Lol, no I can't, I must keep my word. :) Thank you for letting me know you weren't trying to be serious with me though.



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31 May 2013, 4:53 pm

I love necromancy though.


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31 May 2013, 5:09 pm

This thread will have to be resurrected no matter how long or old it gets, how could people otherwise know not to resurrect long dead posts!



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31 May 2013, 10:02 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
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I think there is a difference between threads that should be allowed to Rest In Peace and ones worthy for Re-Animation. I'm not going to attempt to define where the line be drawn.

One thing that bugs me is Ghost Posts, the ones where the OP seems to disappear and then pop up again somewhere else, or am I just too Old School?


I think you are quite correct there Neilson and I have just realised one reason why this bothers me so much. In the past a couple of really old posts were resurrected where the OP or contributing poster had since taken their life. It may have even been a quite innoccuous post/thread but I found it really unnerving and quite sad at the time to see their avatar and their thoughts and feelings from long ago. so sorry if some people found my response over the top but I really think out of respect that some things should be left in the past.


That's a very heavy and loaded situation. I have seen other communities (notably the alternative Christian site Ship of Fools) where the mods are very active in locking those threads and did create a special board for the memorable and powerful threads--one that I recall involved a terminally ill member and included their final posts, comments by their closest survivors and tributes from the community. That can work, if there is that kind of community of moderators.

They would also just lock old posts to prevent the Steve Irwin thing from taking over the boards.

But there also has to be some balance between the old community members saying "We've seen all this before" and newcomers who have seen none of it before and are full of questions.


Opal I'm sorry for my poor attempts at humour, that thought had not occurred.

It seems like there is only 2 and 1/2 active moderators for this whole site, and one of those is on the verge of leaving according to a recent post. It's not surprising that they are over whelmed. So more support for them and more autonomous management for the rest of us.


O goodness Neilson. :oops: I was responding to the first paragraph of your post, the second paragraph obviously triggered something though :) So, thanks I guess. :oops:

I think it's different when you know the person has died violently or tragically. I used to post on another site where a fellow died - of natural causes. He had been sick with various condtions for a long time, yet was one of the most kind and positive members of the site. The community had a strong online/offline contingent so quite a few members went to his funeral and read poems and messages by other members. He was a moderator and also a prolific poster so his posts kept going like HeLa cells for a while - however you'd smile knowing the type of person he was and how loved he was.



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31 May 2013, 10:12 pm

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We'll have to make the thread rise from the grave seven years from now.


Lol I came to this thread hoping that is what had already happened. Oh well, I can wait. :lol


I thought so too and was disappointed but hey, I can still do it myself :lol:


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31 May 2013, 10:36 pm

I wish there were more necros, actually. Why keep repeating the process of creating sub-par posts if someone else has made a much better one at some point? Instead we have a throw-away culture. Personally, I think the widespread indoctrination that old equals irrelevant, as (indirectly) suggested by formats like twitter and blogs, may turn out to be harmful.


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01 Jun 2013, 12:25 am

It's good that I'm not the only one bothered by resurrecting old threads. It is pointless to contribute to a post that hasn't been posted in since 2006. People just need to let the old, irrelevant threads die. I'm actually surprised there isn't a rule against it. On another site I frequent, resurrecting old threads is against the rules and result in the thread being locked. I am getting a bit tired of seeing ancient posts on the first pages of the forums, especially when the OP hasn't posted on it in years.



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01 Jun 2013, 12:44 am

A MESSAGE FOR THE FUTURE ME 7 YEARS FROM NOW

You know what are my expectations about my future. I understand that seven years is a short time for any of the possibilities I have envisioned, but I wonder how far into any of them I will be by then. And which path I will choose.

At least I can safely assume that I will never have the opportunity to use a time machine to go back to the past. If I had that opportunity, I would undoubtedly visit myself. But you already know that.

I could ask you about how you are, but as you can conclude from my previous paragraph, it is pointless. Not only I will not receive a reply, but I am also not interested in meaningless things like "how am I feeling in the future". I am more interested in the state of the world as a whole and my own accomplishments (or lack thereof).

Also, a reminder: you shall ensure that whoever ressurects this topic does so with this video (or a copy of it: I do not know if this video or the account linked to it will still be available in 2020):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQcnliEjXM[/youtube]

But you already know that. You are me, after all.


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01 Jun 2013, 2:14 am

Einfari wrote:
People just need to let the old, irrelevant threads die.


Well yeah, but the problem is what "irrelevant" means. It definitely doesn't mean the same thing as "old".

If the thread is called "I am currently suicidal and would like people to cheer me up", then clearly it has a use-by date.

If the thread is called "Vanilla is better than chocolate. Discuss." then it doesn't ever become irrelevant.

And there's a big grey area in-between.



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01 Jun 2013, 2:57 am

opal wrote:
Some of them are 2, 3, 5 or even 7 years old. Chances are the original poster has left the site, or doesn't give a sh** about the topic anymore.
And Steve Irwin's been dead 7 years.


Check it out, OP: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt1050.html



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01 Jun 2013, 3:40 am

Tyri0n wrote:
opal wrote:
Some of them are 2, 3, 5 or even 7 years old. Chances are the original poster has left the site, or doesn't give a sh** about the topic anymore.
And Steve Irwin's been dead 7 years.


Check it out, OP: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt1050.html


I don't see your point, Tyri0n. I'm not being obtuse, I just don't see your point.

People can obviously read factual information in posts without bumping up posts that are seven years old. That's why there is a search function. My point was that there are posts that are no longer "news" or even relevant; or those where people who had initiated or posted in the thread had moved on or even died. I have explained my reasons elsewhere in this thread.

Opal.



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01 Jun 2013, 4:04 am

I have replied to old threads that I find interesting though the person may no longer be a member or don't give a s**t. But, I always try to note that "I know this thread has been around for a while or it is old. There are others on here just like me that are apparently interested in older threads where the conversation can be started again, if they are interesting. So I don't have a problem with it myself. If I see an old thread that I find interesting I will reply to it. Lot's of good information in some of these old threads.



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01 Jun 2013, 4:15 am

Back on topic - I think a large consideration needs to made for the range of members here. We all have our own posting behaviour, I do find it really hard to write here but the benefits are worth the effort. I'm sure many find it much harder than I do.

There is confusion where someone resurrects a thread for discussion but it is others who follow on that reply to the OP. The date is not very prominent in the post either. A support forum should also consider that for many it is the taking part that counts, especially if excluded in real life. In many of the threads members do not even read the other replies before posting. For some topics this is fine and for others less than ideal.

Until the situation changes on WP, an increase in the number of moderators and new software, then we will have to manage ourselves. All I can suggest is if you see an old thread, post a message in BLOCK to remind others, it will only take 10 seconds and may help to reduce confusion and frustration.



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01 Jun 2013, 4:16 am

Necromancy is fun though. Rise old threads from your grave and claim the souls of the newborn ones. :twisted: