I think aspergers was dropped because of the government

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Whether you have Asperger syndrome, a person should be on a disability related benefit such as being in the support group of employment and support allowance due to the fact that Asperger syndrome has some traits that are not desired by employers and these traits are actually screened out of the selection process the taking of psychometric tests as well as a job interview. If a person does manage to find or create a job for him or herself then all is very well but that is not very likely for many people on the autistic spectrum. Also a psychometric test set as a condition for a job interview on which a person scores a certain level excludes him or her from a job is really blatant discrimination and an emotional intelligence quotient of below 70 is by default even on its own a developmental disability in itself. This should be to assess what access needs a person has not just to reject a person off hand. Most employers would see it from that point of view and the whole interviewing stage is just BS anyway so why should a person have to rely mutual grooming just to be able to get a job. It sounds so sick to me.

Another point is that a person can qualify for DLA (disability living allowance)/PIP (personal independence payment) even if they are working but has to fill in a really thick form and describe what the person really needs in order to be able to qualify for it and if they qualify there should be no medical assessments because these can tend to be biased against invisible or camouflaged conditions. A person cannot fake a condition like autism/Asperger syndrome but is still to a certain degree expected to fake a neurotypical spectrum condition and after that still make a pigs ear out of it. I'm not sure if this is the wrong thread for this discussion.

Nope. Our school district will label a kid anything else OTHER than Autism, unless they are so low, it's not debatable.

Now it's some mental health diagnosis, which isn't guaranteed crap for help. All about not having to do IEPs and only 504s.

The school said the change was the best change in a while. It dropped 4 kids from heavy duty supports. Where the school used to have 8 kids in AI, now there is only 2 and they are hoping to move them out after they reach second grade.

The school knows Autism is a money pit diagnosis, and they are cheap bastards. Anything to dodge the federal mandates and wear parents out.

A reason for the change was a feeling that Aspergers was being over-diagnosed. People who were involved in the decision said so. There were no studies validating that belief.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/aspergers-alive/201211/why-claim-aspergers-is-overdiagnosed

A study on this subject has just come out it will cost you (Excluding Tax/Vat): £10.00 / €11.80 / $16.10 to download.
http://pr.textrum.com/index.php?art_id=27#

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Not a very good plan since most everyone with Aspergers still will fit in the category of Autism Spectrum Disorder, which depending on severity it can still be a disability interfering with ones ability to work. Also not everyone with Aspergers Syndrome needs SSI...Either way all the people with Aspergers who need SSI still qualify as being diagnosed with ASD which still qualifies people for SSI.

Uhh they cannot just up and revoke someones disability...just because what its called changes, someones diagnoses changing from Aspergers to Autism Spectrum Disorder isn't going to get their disability revoked. If that where the case I would have been denied and lost the appeal since I got my SSI around the same time they made the change in the DSM...

Aspergers or not you have a qualifying disability if the Social Security shrink says so. They are not hired to spend taxpayer money.

Hmm, it is below the poverty line...but in my experience its not nessisarily true you can't get anything fun ever, in fact it specifies in the packet that comes with SSI that hobbies/recreational activities should be budgeted in for well-being, but cannot take priority before needed spending otherwise then you don't have money for your basic needs/bills.

I am not really worried of getting chucked on the street right now either...I pay my mom rent, and am looking into subsidized housing which would cost just about as much as I pay now if I move out. Its not an ideal income but it is possible to somewhat make it work to where life isn't entirely un-enjoyable. Of course I cannot say it would be the same if I lived in another state or a more expensive area of this one.

Yes they will, and yes its annoying...certainly another one of the cons of getting SSI.

Thread necromancy!

I live on $333 and $190 food stamps per month and I have fun (subsidized housing helps). It depends on what one considers fun. Between the public library, my secondhand bike, and the Internet, I'm doing well in the recreation department.

When I had NO housing except my van, I had even more money to spend on recreation. I could buy my own books instead of relying on the library, and I ate out more often.

Damn just another thing to try to remember only to forget, so much tread necromancy lately I should check the date posted on threads, but of course never remember to do that.

Anyways housing, electricity, water and internet and a way to listen to music/watch movies/play games...are really all I need to be fairly content. I have no interest in T.V service, landline phone or any other stupid crap I'd have to pay for I have a cell phone and I can use the internet for most of the above mentioned things...if I want to watch a t.v show or movie I don't own I can find it on netflix or other streaming sites, maybe even youtube.

Yah I remember when I was 18, my mom tried to put me on SSI. I took that as an insult because I am capable of doing what anyone else can do. But just because im autistic, people just assume i'm going to be unemployed and not make a lot of money. People who barely know me make assumptions just because i'm autistic and I don't want that.

Long story short, I was denied from SSI which I was pretty happy about.

SSI sounds like a terrible system if you ask me. I'm not sure what the other provinces have, but the disability funding offered in Alberta is pretty good. I mean, you're not living like a king when you're on it, but it doesn't automatically put you below the poverty line either. Getting your prescriptions paid for is pretty nice too. (Contrary to popular belief, our public healthcare system really only covers things like hospital care and visits to the doctor's office; prescriptions and certain specialized treatments still cost money upfront.)

Well I don't want to purchase the article. What does it say?

For there to be a government conspiracy concerning Aspergers, there would have to be people in the government who know what it is. Considering the scientific ignorance of the decision-makers in the government, this is very unlikely. Next, the government would have to convince the mental-health professionals who write the DSM to go along. Mental-health professionals might not all be competent, but I think it unlikely that enough of them are downright crooked enough to join a government conspiracy. Conspiracies can't work unless they remain secret, and the more people know about them, the less likely they are to remain secret. They really only work when there are only a handful of people involved. Finally, conspiracies involving more than a tiny number of people never remain secret for very long.

Bottom line: The reclassification of Aspergers to HFA was the result of discussions and debates among the writers of the DSM, not some government conspiracy to cut government spending by a thousandth of a percent.

People on SSI are endlessly criticized for daring to even breathe.

It makes sense to condense it all under an umbrella term such as autistic spectrum disorder. The lines are blurred enough. Level of functioning is a better measurement in this case. People hang onto the term aspergers to differentiate themselfs from autism and I believe this to be for personal illegitimate reasons. There is no conspiracy.

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