Life is testing how fit your genes are for survival

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You know, I hate these kinds of threads and am sick of seeing them. Sorry.

Gawer, I know it seems like I am sometimes on your case, but its just inquiry, and you are bringing up some interesting ideas in various threads, a lot of it about nature/nurture with the slant kind of being on nature, and I am very interesting in looking at that. Okay:-)---You have just written on the previous page that you do a lot of perfectionist thinking, so by this definition then a lot of your own thinking could be wrong. .In your various writings you do seem to be making a lot of black and white distinctions between aspies and nt's, and to me this would be wrong thinking. A person who thinks black and white based on emotion and jumping to conclusions based on false premises could be either an aspie or an nt. You seem to be doing this in the above quote in the last sentence about "Asperger related thinking."

To me this is a clear example of black and white thinking, and again there is this implied framing of it all into what to me is a fake aspie-nt dichotomy, as this follows the previous paragraph I quoted. Also it is questionable if a person is really making that much of a conscious choice just because he is doing what some other people are not doing, and it is implied that these other people who are (seemingly) socially adjusted or whatever are not making a similar choice to do whatever it is they are doing. And you or I do not really know what it is they are experiencing in their lives and their families, whether it is dead or alive..(to me it would probably seem kind of dead, as would what most aspies are doing also...)

If you are talking about being truly yourself, then I might agree, but in order to be in full relationship a person would need to develop his own reasoning capacity, as it is questionable if a person can be in conscious relationship when he has much wrong thinking about the nature of reality and also many conditioned habits of thinking and behavior which are mechanically regulating his functioning, and which wrong ideas and habits he (or she) is obliviously unaware of, while all the time thinking and feeling he or she is aware, so it is next to impossible for such a person see any of this about himself, though it is technically possible.

For instance a person can see things a certain way and it feels right to him (or her), but in actuality it is completely wrong, for instance when a person is acting as a racist or deviding the world into aspies and nt's.....It all does seem to make sense to the person who is doing it in that basically it simply feels right, but it is really quite wrong, at least according to me, and I am not just saying this because it feels wrongs, but my feeling and thinking arfe functioning together in an entirely different way then they have done in the past when I, too, may have been doing this over generalized black and white thinking....

Get something in return? What's on your mind here?

Hi littlebee.

I admit I've been too keen on dividing into nt's and aspies previously. Being aspie (or nt) is merely a ("small") part of who one is.

Oh I didn't mean to say it's impossible for NTs to have black-and-white thinking. I'm just saying that I think my black-and-white thinking is Asperger-related.

I also admit I love to generalize, it's bothersome the world is practically never generalizable.

From that point I do see it would be wrong to claim life is about survival. On the other hand there is so much statistical evidence that it is. Look at what all people do. They try to survive one way or the other. Simply because if they didn't, they wouldn't live. That's the one thing you can generalize to all people: you know they have to try to survive one way or the other. In that sense personality is 'just' a matter of how/in what way you do it.

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You are not irreversibly conditioned by either nature or nurture, if that was true I would have been dead or in jail a long time ago. Don't allow "society" (even if you call it NTs) or your instinctual being to decide what your life will be without your concious, thinking being having a say. In return, you might get ownership of yourself. But if all you actually want from life it's to pass on your genes, that's as valid a choice as any other, just not the only one.

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Sorry. From this point you need to avoid threads started by "Qawer". Unless you get curious

Sorry, I just read the thread and found it too depressing to respond to. Yea, you have to survive to live, but if survival is the only point of living then I don't have that great of a desire to live. Shallow thinking like that is the ultimate downer to me. Also social darwinism seems to be a US-centric idea at the present time.

I completely understand. That's mainly why I started the thread. I just wanted to know how to not find it depressing that it's only about that. I think the answer is to enjoy one's potential. Enjoy what you can be and do instead of what you cannot. Or in my case stop being perfectionistic, and instead be content with just being some and not everything.

What about the more Eastern philosophies? Why does there have to be so much focus on the "self"? Why not focus on what you find interesting or fun? Why not focus on what you can do to improve someone else's life? Why is our culture so damn narcissistic? I think it's terrible for mental health to focus on your self so much. I'd rather go off and smell the flowers.