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30 Jun 2013, 4:53 pm

Tequila wrote:
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I have always thought that it would be nice if eberrything were sold by vending machines.


Something like this, only more of them and selling different products?

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or you could say well its a party it's me i and myself and than be serious about it,and say i just like to buy the alcohol once and for all and drink a little bit week for week,with the reason that you by doing so you just come once at the supermarket and save time



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30 Jun 2013, 4:57 pm

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Tequila wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
I have always thought that it would be nice if eberrything were sold by vending machines.


Something like this, only more of them and selling different products?

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Vending Machine Alley by Cheeky Mango, on Flickr

or you could say well its a party it's me i and myself and than be serious about it,and say i just like to buy the alcohol once and for all and drink a little bit week for week,with the reason that you by doing so you just come once at the supermarket and save time

does anybody think it's a good advice



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30 Jun 2013, 5:01 pm

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It's always hard to think of the right thing to do when you are put on the spot. If I had a dollar for every time I've thought of something clever to say or do about three days after I needed to think of it, I would be a rich woman. :?


Yeah, it's not normally a problem. I don't normally need a passport to buy beer or cider. I never need it in a pub, for example. Which is really rather odd, as you'd think that it would be evenly spread out.

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I am sorry. There is not a lot I can say to you except to reiterate that they are idiots. People who laugh at other people's difficulties are the lowest of the low. All I can think is that they have very sad lives if they have to boost themselves up in this way.


It wasn't like the woman (it was only one person) was openly laughing at me, but I did see a smirk.

I have told my mum about it again and I've told her not to do that. She wouldn't like it if the roles were reversed, so I don't see how it's any different when it comes down to me.

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It seems that struggling with flirting is quite a common problem with the Aspies I have talked to.


Sometimes I have had women think that I am flirting with them when actually I am just bloody terrified of the situation I am in and am unable (for reasons beyond my control) to make any contact.

I tend to find that when I stare too much, I give women the absolute creeps. Which is understandable, but again - I'm paralysed.

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I don't really have much advice on this one, except if you have any female friends then flirting with them might help you practice.


I don't have any friends if I'm honest. I have acquaintances and people I meet on a semi-regular basis who are women, but they are not friends.

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I am not sure if I am misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you are trying to flirt at the supermarket?


My problem is that I am often flirted with, yet when I am I more or less blow it. I don't (in general) go looking for these opportunities. They happen and often I feel paralysed in not being able to respond to it effectively when it does - so, for example, I'll give honest but non-flirty answers. Much of the time my answers are simply 'closed off' ones - so, they're technically true, mostly not rude at all and fine as far as they go - but they're not flirty. It's more a feeling of not being able to respond. I'm fine with the initial flirtatious eye contact, then when it comes to actually talking to them in a flirty way, I'm paralysed. I may actually be interested, but I only know about this once they've made it obvious and by then they've moved on.

As I said, more or less the only woman who finds me attractive that I see on a regular basis basically gropes the hell out of me (I'm quite serious - I'm surprised she hasn't put her hands down my trousers yet!). And she's married.

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If you are not relaxed while shopping (a lot of us are not) then it might be a bad place to try it, maybe you would do better somewhere you are more relaxed?


I'm not doing it deliberately.

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As far as flirting goes, if you struggle with freezing up, I find that smiling but not trying to say anything helps - as soon as I try say something clever I come out with something dumb- but a smile and not saying much can go a long way.


Like I say - I can answer fine, I just don't realise that it's flirting or I'm paralysed when it comes to actually acting on my flirtatious desire. I'm better at it when it comes to a couple of drinks, but that's no good.

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The other thing I find useful for shopping is going somewhere smaller, where you get to recognise people, rather than a big supermarket where there are countless workers. Then, as you get to know people, you get more relaxed in talking to them.


I do that already - the supermarket I use is fairly small and everyone knows everyone else, more or less. Like I say, I'm not completely socially aloof there but my answers are more focused on simple pleasantries and getting out of there.



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30 Jun 2013, 5:08 pm

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Why didn't you have your id on you? Then when they didn't want to serve you just say "I'm (legal drinking age in your country) and then show them your id or they'll ask to see it.

I don't know how it works over there but here a lot of stores have policies to id everyone.


In the UK, it's much more haphazard. Sometimes it is asked for, some times it is not. I was banking it being one of those times when it wasn't asked for.

I don't usually get asked. Perhaps 1 time in 10 or something like that.



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30 Jun 2013, 5:12 pm

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You could say something like, I'm always having a party, or Oh, I don't know what I'm going to do. I'll just see what happens.


That first one is a pretty decent idea, but when they ask: "And how many people usually are at these parties?" you say, I don't know, "Just one person, but theoretically anything could happen!" or something.


I don't think most NTs would take it that literally. They don't really want to know about your party. They are just talking to make conversation. So just say anything.



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30 Jun 2013, 5:13 pm

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I don't think most NTs would take it that literally. They don't really want to know about your party. They are just talking to make conversation. So just say anything.


I'm thinking of "what if?". The first answer should satisfy them, but if they carry on...



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30 Jun 2013, 7:36 pm

"No, it's for a funeral."

I got asked for id when I was buying beer (legal age 16) and I'm 30. And yet when I was 10 me and a friend bought a crate of beer for his dad, and nobody asked for id back then.
Aren't people required to carry their id in the UK? They introduced that in the Netherlands a couple of years ago, for no reason.



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30 Jun 2013, 8:46 pm

No, they're not. The legal drinking age is 18 in the UK, but the penalties for serving alcohol to people who are under 18 are so high that supermarkets/off licences are extremely careful to instruct their staff to demand proof-of-age where there is any doubt (or they don't know the customer). So they often ask people who are much older than 18 - asking people who are nearly 30 is not uncommon.

It pisses me right off, but I understand why retail staff do ask for it and they aren't generally doing it because they want to, so I have some sympathy with them.



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01 Jul 2013, 5:27 am

If anyone asks me if Iam having a party I say, "Yes and Iam the only one I invited" in a positive way, that way you've given an answer that doesn't make you sound like a loser, that you are comfortable in your own company, if you just say you are having a party, what you going to say if the cashier says, "Oh can I come"?, go home, tidy up and see what she does when she realises its just the two of you?
Whereas being honest about your party of one gives her the opportunity to say "oh thats sad, maybe you should invite me"?


Or for something really whimsical if you find it annoying because a cashier is not minding their own business regarding your alcohol consumption, you could claim to be a Minister helping the down and outs.



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01 Jul 2013, 10:25 am

It makes all the difference who asked you and whether you wish to reply and why and how you wish to reply.

I did pick up some info in later posts that you want to know what the flirty reply would be.

If you want to reply at all (and you don't have to - it's none of their business) you could just smile and say "Maayyybeeee."

Of course whether you want to pick up a random stranger and bring them home, someone who'd go home with a guy for a few beers...that is another question. ;)



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01 Jul 2013, 10:40 am

Hmm I'm not very good at replies either.

Maybe something like "Well they say two's the loneliest number since the number 1 but three's company if you know what I mean" then pat your crotch and wink at her and then if you don't get slapped and she laughs you can ask for her number?



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01 Jul 2013, 8:00 pm

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"Paddington Bear Hard Stare".


Best. Description. Ever.

And to the OP, you can always say something like, "no, I just have a grudge against my liver."


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01 Jul 2013, 8:13 pm

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What if she actually wants to?


Then I will tell her that the venue will be my bedroom due to a lack of space anywhere else.

That should either elicit uneasy laughter and a swift rejection or a counter-proposal of her own.

I would only say that if I was serious, mind you.



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02 Jul 2013, 6:54 am

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I know lots of people that buy beer just for home comforts, not all drinks necessarily mean you're having a party, and not everyone lives their life at parties anyway, so it's nothing to be ashamed of or for others to judge you on.


It's not that - I just never, ever, ever go to parties. And anyone who knows me knows that it's a stupid thing to ask me.

It's a stupid comment that isn't being made seriously, so I have trouble with it.

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I got asked by my bus-driver the other week if I am having a party, because I had two big Tesco carrier bags. I just smiled and said, ''no, this is just part of my shopping.'' He just smiled and said, ''have a nice day'' and carried on.


Well, yes, I suppose so. I just go and get a wine box, stick six (or 12) of the best in there and just go to the till.

If he wasn't married, I know a bus driver that probably would have been interested in you. ;)

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But I know what you mean. Sudden conversations from strangers can be awkward. When I respond to this type of thing, I sometimes go to say something else but it gets lost on my tongue so I end up standing there grinning at them like an idiot, and they're staring at me expecting me to say something else, and it all becomes awkward. The awkwardness would rapidly die off if they stopped staring at me, but they don't. They just carry on staring at me funny on and off for as long as they can, instead of just thinking, ''OK, conversation was short and sweet but it's obvious she's not going to say anything else so let's just end it now without prolonging this awkward moment.''


Yes, it's not fun.

I think the other thing is that I'm often too tired to know when I'm being flirted with. i have a sleep disorder that badly needs rectifying.



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02 Jul 2013, 3:09 pm

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And to the OP, you can always say something like, "no, I just have a grudge against my liver."


I would spice that up by saying that there is "a brutal war of attrition going on between myself and my liver".



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02 Jul 2013, 4:23 pm

girly_aspie wrote:
And to the OP, you can always say something like, "no, I just have a grudge against my liver."

:lol: I like that.

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Today, for example, I went to buy some cider (not there, but somewhere else locally). Neckbeard refused to serve me (I'm 25). My mum marches in, flashes my passport and he puts the stuff through, all the while all the women are smirking at me. This isn't fun; it's emasculating. I've told her that I don't like her doing this, but she refuses to listen, saying that if I did it, it would take forever.


Ewww. Don't let her do that. First off - take your passport from her and hide it. Also get a provisional driving license if she won't let you have your passport.

In fact, why do you go there with your mum in the first place?

I get the evils from women (or a "sigh" look) every time I buy junk food. I almost never have a problem with men. My answer to it is to use the auto-checkouts, and to never visit the same supermarket regularly. As for striking conversations, I'm in the same boat. There's sometimes some gorgeous man behind the till who tries to strike up a conversation with me and I fail every time. The last one kept saying thank you to me and was all nervous and shy. Ahh...it's frustrating, isn't it? Those missed opportunities and you want to kick yourself for being so dumb (as in the actual meaning).

I remember once buying a packet of ice-lollies (for myself) and a man behind the till said to me he once ate a whole box of them. I told him I did that regularly and he went silent. :D