Those who want an AS cure

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Strattera doesn't have the same temper-shortening side effects of other frontal lobe stimulants. It also didn't blunt my appetite. I rather missed that side effect, I coulda used more of it.

well no one will have the same side effects but you have to know how it effects you. Apart of the reason I don't take ADHD meds anymore is because they made me more violent and I became underweight because of them. They affect people in different ways.

I didn't use Stattera, I used Vyvanse. I also used Adderall

A paraplegic *is* a person. A woman is a person. An Australian is a person. "Paraplegic" is a term for a specific group of people. You can't separate a person's disability from the person, even though they are much more than just a stereotype of a disability.

Your disability is a part of your life whether you like it or not. It's a part of your identity whether you like it or not. Some people reject it, and that very rejection is a part of who they are. Living with a disability changes your experiences and affects your perspective. Much more so if the disability is neurological, like autism.

"AS is a disability" is not a valid counterargument to "I do not want a cure." There are people who have severe autism with little or no benefits who don't want a cure. There are paraplegics who want to be mountain climbers who also don't want a cure. (And some of them manage to become mountain climbers anyway. Technology plus creativity equals "Who says I need legs?")

Autism causes impairment. Autism is a disability. It does not follow that a person with autism is better off wanting to be neurotypical.

Thinking that all NT's-or even "some"-are bashful and ignorant is only shifting the argument to a personal level rather than one's viewpoint (or in this case, ignorance) on the world.

... And paraplegics want people things, not paraplegic things. They want things that are relevant to them as an individual, not relevant to their disability. A paraplegic who wants to regain use of his legs for something meaningful to him is not rejecting his identity, he's seeking it. Same for me.



But it's not my whole identity, an important part of my identity, or anything I care about losing. I don't idolize what I was born as and with as sacred and untouchable.

Rejecting Asperger's behavior and traits over the years has, sorry to say, made me happier as opposed to anything else. If you think I'm bitter now you should have seen how self-loathing and bitter I was when I thought the way the wah-wah-your-identity crowd would like for me and everyone else to think.



There was never an argument over "I do not want a cure". The argument is over how self-hating and desiring of conformity those who do must be, and how they're thinking of giving up good things they only have because of their disability for the bad things they'd have if they didn't have it.

I don't care who doesn't want a cure, but I do care who sighs about my desire to go to college, have a professional life, have a social life, reach difficult goals, process better, be in tune with my own body, be in control of myself and my emotions, and be self-sufficient - which a meaningless disability is in direct conflict with - like it's just so sad that I couldn't accept my lot in life even if it's in the way of my dreams and callings. Creating one's own identity and choosing what to cultivate and what to cut based on values, how lame, right?

Right here.

I don't care how I get it-- whether it's a cure or an end to the stereotypes and bigotry and hate. But I want to be free to live the life I want. I want to be free to live the life I have built for myself-- and I would like to live it comfortably, with a little less effort put into things others don't even have to think about.

I would like to be able to go to church a couple Sundays a month, and not be afraid of how I am going to be judged. I would like to be able to do that because I am confident in fitting in.

I would like to be able to go to a soccer game on Sunday afternoon and cheer for my daughter and not look like an idiot because I process the action on the field slower than the other parents. Yes, I can accomplish this by following my husband's lead-- but I would like to be able to do it myself.

I would like to be able to show up at a holiday gathering and not have to look at my husband to know what I should say, how I should hold myself, what expression I should be (and for that matter, what expression I am) wearing.

I would like to go out, and fit in, and have it NOT BE FAKE.

I would like to not evaluate my housekeeping, every day, based on "What would a social worker say??"

To not raise my kids based on, "How will I justify this to CPS when _________________ finds out about me and calls them??"

To not have to have someone available to speak for me, not because I am not able to vocalize for myself, but because people ignore what I say as being invalid and having no relevance yet honor the same words as wise when they are repeated by the NT sitting next to me.

I would like to not have to prove my humanity, bend over backward to earn my seat at the table, justify my right to exist, and demonstrate that I am just as good as anyone else EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY LIFE.

NTs only have to live the way I live while they are punching someone else's time clock. My NT husband takes it for granted that I do not have to live the way I have to live...

...but just watch the fur fly if I STOP.

I would like an end to that. The only realistic way I am going to get it is through some kind of cure.

I am free to live the life that I want, and it is up to me to bring it about.

Eberryday, I am trying to live the life that I want.

It takes a lot of effort, but I don't mind putting more effort into things that other people do effortlessly.

Other people also have to put more effort into things that I do effortlessly.

My life has been full of growth and learning since I was born.

Even in past year, I have grown in many ways and learned many things.

iMother tells me that she has noticed many changes.

I know that I will continue to grow in many ways and learn many things in future.

I have verry merry berry many goals in life.

Sure, judging you for that is similar to judging someone for identifying as a different gender than the biological one they were born with. Not cool.

We get enough crap from certain conformist NTs (no, I'm not saying all or even most NTs are like this) without getting it from autistic supremacists and the like. Every group includes some intolerant as*holes.

so many dang cats!

You seem to be in the wrong thread.

He means users' avatars.

Personally, I won't stay in the way of any researcher trying to come up with a cure, and certainly won't force anyone not to use it should it ever become available - but I won't hold my breath as I don't believe there ever will be a cure. I think we need to focus on getting acceptance now rather than hope for a cure later.

I know. That still seems to match "what is it with aspies and cats" thread better.

Maybe you guys are in the wrong thread ...? There are four users with cat avatars on the third page alone.

Yes, which would seem to support that there is something with aspies and cats.

Perhaps a cure would cause a major reduction in the popularity of feline pets?

Just add cats.

Catisfaction guranteed.