why would you want to have aspergers syndrome: it sucks.
Sarcasm and mockery, whether justified or not, aren't a good idea for a moderator of a support forum.
I wasn't mocking; I was just going by the example given.
With everything that people with ASD have to face in society, you are obsessed about the isolated example of a small plate and a glass?
Actually, denial aside, you were mocking, even bullying. We have a struggle that is much greater than your ego. The solution of that struggle is solidarity, not infighting.
I didn't think that post was mocking. I thought it was just pointing out that asking him to bring his plates to the sink wasn't exactly an abusive expectation on the parents' part. Bringing big issues like solidarity and infighting into a simple comment like that is blowing things out of proportion.
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I'm sorry your family is so ignorant. My own family, especially my mother, have been very good at understanding and helping me out. When the bus I was on got into an accident this past Friday my mother didn't get angry at me for becoming hysterical and having a huge anxiety attack and told me I was glad I called her to take me home.
I have no problem bringing dirty dishes to the sink, it's washing them that's the problem. I live alone now and I don't have space for a dishwasher so I have to wash all my dishes. But at least I don't have to do it right after a meal. We're supposed to be saving on hot water, right?
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You have more to offer than you think sweetie.
I think most of the people on this board do. Whether I am on the spectrum or not I find people with Asperger's to be some of the most interesting people I have met (and I have met someone with Asperger's many moons ago..he was very smart, very funny and very sexy!...he was male so I found him attractive, very much so).
Don't hate yourself, I have read some of your posts, you seem like a lovely person and much politer than most people I know.
NT's with prejudices are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves, not you.
Ditto. I like you very much too Joe. You are a very cool person. Don't ever let anything or anyone make you think otherwise.
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Who_Am_I wrote:
So what I'm gathering is that your parents are evil because they want you to bring your dirty dishes to the sink.
That original comment was actually a violation of the rules.
Even if communication is not a talent, this thread is about an attempt to express the general frustrations of having ASD.
Solidarity is in no way out of proportion. That is the only acceptable reality.
Sarcasm and mockery, whether justified or not, aren't a good idea for a moderator of a support forum.
I wasn't mocking; I was just going by the example given.
With everything that people with ASD have to face in society, you are obsessed about the isolated example of a small plate and a glass?
Actually, denial aside, you were mocking, even bullying. We have a struggle that is much greater than your ego. The solution of that struggle is solidarity, not infighting.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting dirty dishes to the sink. There is nothing ignorant, abusive about it. I do not understand why people make a big deal having to do things that is no big deal. I mean I read something on Maxine Ashton's page about being raised by aspie parents and the first one was about Sarah's parents and oh boy it was so horrible for the NT child to have to walk around using a plate when she wishes to walk around the home eating something or my mom telling me yesterday how hard it was for the whole family from me so they had to live around my rules to keep me calm and I said what is so horrible about having to take your shoes off when you get inside. I also didn't like dirty dishes being lying around either.
It's not an NT or aspie thing to complain about over little things like having to bring a dirty dish to a sink nor is it an aspie thing to be bothered by dirty dishes lying around my mother made it out to be.
I also see the OP's point about how he prefers to bring his dirty dishes to the sink at the end of the day to save water so it's not like he is one of those people who are lazy and don't ever bring them to the sink or keep forgetting to do it they finally have to get nagged to do it now or it will never get done.
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Oh, do come along now. Bullying? Really?
The way I saw it, it was a sardonically-expressed invitation for OP to tell us more, because the details he'd given *did indeed* amount to whingeing about washing dirty dishes.
No, wait: whingeing about fetching dirty dishes from his room so that his parents could wash them.
Granted, he's obviously an unhappy young man (ah yes, I remember those days...and I sympathise: Life seems to be a never-ending series of depressing calamities) and hopefully he'll find a level of support on here that he can't get access to in his everyday life.
But let's not let this get out of proportion.
Sarcasm and mockery, whether justified or not, aren't a good idea for a moderator of a support forum.
I wasn't mocking; I was just going by the example given.
With everything that people with ASD have to face in society, you are obsessed about the isolated example of a small plate and a glass?
Actually, denial aside, you were mocking, even bullying. We have a struggle that is much greater than your ego. The solution of that struggle is solidarity, not infighting.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting dirty dishes to the sink. There is nothing ignorant, abusive about it. I do not understand why people make a big deal having to do things that is no big deal. I mean I read something on Maxine Ashton's page about being raised by aspie parents and the first one was about Sarah's parents and oh boy it was so horrible for the NT child to have to walk around using a plate when she wishes to walk around the home eating something or my mom telling me yesterday how hard it was for the whole family from me so they had to live around my rules to keep me calm and I said what is so horrible about having to take your shoes off when you get inside. I also didn't like dirty dishes being lying around either.
It's not an NT or aspie thing to complain about over little things like having to bring a dirty dish to a sink nor is it an aspie thing to be bothered by duty dishes lying around my mother made it out to be.
I also see the OP's point about how he prefers to bring his dirty dishes to the sink at the end of the day to save water so it's not like he is one of those people who are lazy and don't ever bring them to the sink or keep forgetting to do it they finally have to get nagged to do it now or it will never get done.
I say again, the reference to dishes is tangential. It is not related to the main thesis of this thread.
The OP shouldn't have mentioned it then because it did make it sound like he is whining about having to bring dirty dishes to the sink and saying it's so abusive and ignorant because it's not and it changes the whole meaning of his post. It's a normal thing in the household for everyone and autism has nothing to do with it. It's part of having responsibilities. If you whine over something trivial, people are going to take you less seriously because they are going to think what other things do you consider "ignorant" and "abusive" that are actually normal and think badly of you.
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Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
It may even be muscle control. I know it often happens before I speak. That is why I use the term “abstract disability” instead of “hidden disability”. There is nothing “hidden” about it. If it were tangible, they would be able to wrap their brains around it.
huh... it more the bugging of me to keep the house looking so perfect... my father has part ocd so that when there is a dish down stair i know it has to brought up at the end of the day... i don't like to be racing up and downstair each 5 minutes for a stupid cup in the basement.. 1 flipping cup.
it's more harassment to keep everything 100% perfect when the house is full of boxes everywhere... so yah....
Oh, do come along now. Bullying? Really?
The way I saw it, it was a sardonically-expressed invitation for OP to tell us more, because the details he'd given *did indeed* amount to whingeing about washing dirty dishes.
No, wait: whingeing about fetching dirty dishes from his room so that his parents could wash them.
Granted, he's obviously an unhappy young man (ah yes, I remember those days...and I sympathise: Life seems to be a never-ending series of depressing calamities) and hopefully he'll find a level of support on here that he can't get access to in his everyday life.
But let's not let this get out of proportion.
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Maybe you missed it, but that “out of proportion” cliche has already been disproven. What do you think the purpose of the whole forum is?
If the moderators were bothering to do their jobs this conversation would never have occurred.
Yes, bullying, exactly.
Sarcasm and mockery, whether justified or not, aren't a good idea for a moderator of a support forum.
I wasn't mocking; I was just going by the example given.
With everything that people with ASD have to face in society, you are obsessed about the isolated example of a small plate and a glass?
Actually, denial aside, you were mocking, even bullying. We have a struggle that is much greater than your ego. The solution of that struggle is solidarity, not infighting.
No, he is the one that is obsessed; this is about the third thread where he's called his parents evil and only given the example of "they won't let me fill my room up with dirty dishes". Until I read more examples, I will continue to presume that he's overreacting massively and insulting people who actually do have bad parents.
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Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
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it's more harassment to keep everything 100% perfect when the house is full of boxes everywhere... so yah....
This is a bit more annoying, I guess, but still... I would call it a nuisance.
Incidentally, Kuribo, calling people judgemental a***holes is also against the site rules, and you don't even need to try to interpret it as a personal attack because it clearly is one.
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Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
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Not sure how much this relates to being an Aspie but I found this while browsing a friend's Facebook page:
http://themetapicture.com/how-to-intera ... troverted/
Tell me about it!! !! !! !! I have a love/hate relationship with Asperger's(who(I like to call it a "who" because it is a longtime ally) coldly betrayed me when I got severe OCD(which was believed to have been caused by a traumatic event I went through). I love it, but I hate it. I love it in the sense that me(along with my fellow Aspies) are highly intelligent.
I hate some people. Just this week, at my workplace, some of my coworkers are such ignorant asswipes. When I was standing around because of my anxiety attack, I heard some rat bastard say "He's just standing around!" and of course, he said it rudely. Also, one of my coworkers doesn't like me for who I am. I was helping him out, and he was disappointed in me. You know how we Aspies can't be "Perfect" for those people? Well, as an Aspie, I function differently, so of course, he shakes his head when I was helping him, EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO THE FRICKING BACK OF THE KART WE WERE PUSHING!! !! !! I don't give a rat's ass how he felt.
You know those people who say ignorant s**t to us? Well, here's a couple more of them that I met and know at work. This guy, who turned out pretty friendly, and acts like a good older brother to me, told me to stand up. Another coworker of mine, told me that sometimes, sitting isn't allowed. Well, I asked her to double-check, and, knowing that two of the company owners saw me sitting, and that they didn't tell me to get out of the chair(because I was working), she said sometimes. I was in international waters at the time(so to speak). If you know how that works, you'll know what I mean. He acted like it was his territory. My female coworker that I mentioned told me to sit down, knowing full well that I am tall, and that she wanted me to sit down so I could save myself the trouble of bending over(and thus my back was hurt), and also increasing efficiency(I am quite keen on that, so I told her: "Welcome to my world!! !") Granted, I'm a MUCH harder worker than ever before( than at my previous job at Walgreens), and I didn't sit down because I was lazy and/or tired. I simply listened to my coworker. Keep in mind, I wasn't upset about getting up, I was upset about how this guy acted.The both of us believe in being efficient, but, what I'm about to tell you, is what I like to call an idiot's logic: Defficiency(My word for inefficient) is the new efficiency.
Just then, this guy comes up and says rudely "Just stand up!" So I then made fun of him by mocking him by telling him he needed some diapers, a bib, a binky, and some bottle of milk because he was such a crybaby. He didn't say a thing. Then, I found out a moment later that(get ready folks, we got some real jealous kids coming up!! !! Keep in mind, we Aspies are childish, and while I am mature in some ways, along with other Aspies, and I am absolutely fine with me and my fellow Aspies being their childish selves(I mean this in the positive way, of course) I can't help but insult NTs like those guys I mentioned before and the other bastards that follow for being so negatively childish.) some coworkers were SO angry that I was sitting down. Boo hoo hoo!! !! I was sitting down and they're not!! !! ! Boo hoo hoo!! !! !! !! ! I couldn't care less -_-
So many NTs(not most NTs, but a damn good portion) are so pathetic these days!! !! !! ! I'm just venting my anger out. Still, I was telling the truth, and simply NOT an exaggeration. I apologize if anyone was offended by the foul language. Honestly, I would like to stop swearing, but at the same time, I find myself swearing when I'm angry(and when I'm happy and excited ). However, I'm usually nice to everyone, and I hardly treat anyone like crap(You know how we all do that sometimes). And, I wanted to see the Terms of Use(of course, we Aspies take things literally) so I am scared about getting in trouble because it says, you'll be held responsible for defamatory, libelous, and slanderous language(which my severe OCD most likely played a role in for being scared) For f**k's sake!! !! !! ! I even thought I would get arrested for this!! !! Of course, that's my stupid OCD making me paranoid. Still, there are A LOT of dumb, spineless NT's out there!! !!
Mod edit: turned down the language at OP's request. Added paragraphs.