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JSBACHlover
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15 Feb 2014, 11:39 pm

To Dillogic: Oh. Well no wonder you are down on empathy! I would be, too. Just to be clear, I use the word empathy for one-on-one communication. With mass manipulation, I don't use the word empathy. I use the word idiocy.

And to the others above, thank you for making the distinction. Empathy is the prerequisite for loving another. That makes sense. Thanks!



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16 Feb 2014, 12:00 am

Thank you, too, JSBACHlover! On various occasions, you have brought sunshine and much clarity, where I had begun to lose my way. Blessings to you, as well!



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16 Feb 2014, 12:05 am

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16 Feb 2014, 1:17 am

Leave them be :) You can absolutely make your beliefs known when speaking in general but if you say that to a person on a personal level they will likely take offense unless you know them well. I am a lot like you but I no longer have any great interest in changing others unless they are harming someone with their behavour. I would like for them to see things my way but I often fail to convince them and do not think it will make much difference. I hate the servility of the commoner. Servility to the law, servility to govt, servility to gods, servility to society (the idiot commonality). You have to ask yourself why you want to confront these people. Is it because you want to help them or because you want to release your frustration on them? I am also frustrated btw. Do you think confronting them will change them? I do talk to people about ideology and often disagree but at the personal level I try do it respectfully. I save my rage for society as a whole not specific individuals (unless they are worse than society). Leave them be :) Patiently and gracefully try to convert them but condescension never helps on a personal level. Try to put forward wisdom in what you say and maybe with a good deal of time and patience some will break free of their self imposed chains. Can't do anything else.


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I exist outside of "society", all of those who are wired for obedience are as fish in water, they simply exist in it, accept it....never deeply questioning it. I on the other hand look at them and see the chains which bind them, those same chains they see as safety cables protecting them from the unknown. I am deep, I know myself and continue on the path of self-knowledge. It can be frustrating feeling as though I am a cat among dogs. I watch them behave as dogs, doing things which disgust me, simply doing them because they have been told/taught to do them. I peek behind the curtain and cry out "your god/govt is an old man in filthy rags, come and see", they recoil because they believe I am speaking of their father. They have bonded to the god/govt. I can choose one of two paths....I can rage at them for their shallow stupidity and conformity. Or, I can have empathy, it is my pride and my humility which allow me this choice, this ability. No, they are not like me...but I can have empathy for them. I can show them I care by speaking to them the way one speaks to a terrified dog....with tenderness. Should they bite I can then, and only then smack them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and defend myself from their snapping jaws. But I must remember that I am often like lightening and thunder to puppies who've barely opened their eyes.

How can we as individuals have more empathy for ourselves and others?

Thank you for indulging me.