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23 Feb 2014, 2:11 pm

no-one ever said nor did i ever imply one category is more talented than the other ! !

i was hoping to write a brief rather than lengthier post and not endlessly qualifying my every statement or observation.



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23 Feb 2014, 2:27 pm

IT STILL EXISTS ALL RIGHT. there is Aspergers, high functioning autism, and low functioning autism. It totally exists.


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23 Feb 2014, 2:27 pm

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


Perhaps she was a bit more mature.


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23 Feb 2014, 2:38 pm

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But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.


True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


I don't know.


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23 Feb 2014, 5:02 pm

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But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.


True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


I don't know.


Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f*****g B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.


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23 Feb 2014, 5:13 pm

Lorna Wing is British? I think they pronounce it differently than the Americans.


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23 Feb 2014, 5:18 pm

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Lorna Wing is British? I think they pronounce it differently than the Americans.


She is British


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23 Feb 2014, 5:39 pm

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You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles


I am pretty sure this was part of a general statement to everybody, but because I'm quoted in what you're responding to, I'm just putting it out there that I don't think there's a problem with the name "Asperger". (I don't have any particular feelings about it, actually.)

You're right, people will find ways to make fun of you if they really want to -- if your name or the label of your condition doesn't work they will give you/your condition a cruel nickname, or just say mean things about you/your condition.

By the way, some English speakers pronounce Asperger's with the "gers" part of it pronounced "jers" (dunno how common it is or if it's another incorrect pronounciation, but I can't be the only one who says it that way?).


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23 Feb 2014, 5:49 pm

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Lorna Wing is British? I think they pronounce it differently than the Americans.

We also don't say "ass". We say "arse".



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23 Feb 2014, 6:02 pm

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btbnnyr wrote:
Lorna Wing is British? I think they pronounce it differently than the Americans.

We also don't say "ass". We say "arse".


Same here in Australia - arse

When I was a kid, I saw a show on TV about asses in the desert that were living in the wild. The show was narrated by an American so I thought his pronunciation of asses was due to his accent and that being Australian, we should pronounce it our way, so I went out to the kitchen and told everyone (guests included) about all the 'wild arses' running around the desert. I wasn't very popular to say the least.


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23 Feb 2014, 7:50 pm

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ASPartofMe wrote:
You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles


I am pretty sure this was part of a general statement to everybody, but because I'm quoted in what you're responding to, I'm just putting it out there that I don't think there's a problem with the name "Asperger". (I don't have any particular feelings about it, actually.)

You're right, people will find ways to make fun of you if they really want to -- if your name or the label of your condition doesn't work they will give you/your condition a cruel nickname, or just say mean things about you/your condition.

By the way, some English speakers pronounce Asperger's with the "gers" part of it pronounced "jers" (dunno how common it is or if it's another incorrect pronounciation, but I can't be the only one who says it that way?).


The comment was meant for Dreycrux and everybody else who is embarrassed by the name. Sorry I was angry at the time and not looking at the quotes close enough


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23 Feb 2014, 8:11 pm

The correct way to pronounce it is "gers", the way they say it in America but in Australia, New Zealand and other British Commonwealth countries (not sure about Canada) pronounce it "jers"


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23 Feb 2014, 11:11 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
animalcrackers wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.


True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

Dreycrux wrote:
Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


I don't know.


Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f***ing B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.


AAS-PER-GERS sounds like ass-purgers which is even worse then assburgers. Purging your ass? What was wrong with this sick woman?

I cringe when I say it either way it's pronounced. I'm glad they buried it.


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23 Feb 2014, 11:12 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
animalcrackers wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.


True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

Dreycrux wrote:
Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


I don't know.


Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f***ing B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.


AAS-PER-GERS sounds like ass-purgers which is even worse then assburgers. Purging your ass? What was wrong with this woman?

I cringe when I say it either way it's pronounced. I'm glad they buried it.


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23 Feb 2014, 11:24 pm

Dreycrux wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
animalcrackers wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.


True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

Dreycrux wrote:
Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?


I don't know.


Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f***ing B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.


AAS-PER-GERS sounds like ass-purgers which is even worse then assburgers. Purging your ass? What was wrong with this woman?

I cringe when I say it either way it's pronounced. I'm glad they buried it.



True! So much better and easier to tell people you're autistic.


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24 Feb 2014, 1:40 am

ablomov wrote:
aspis often have talents and can soar above others with their abilities, autists (I hope I don't offend) seem like granite .... cold and inflexible, dead to inference and hint ..... maybe v occasionally with a super-functioning gift but near to odd as odd can be ....


Apart from Rainman do you actually know anybody diagnosed with autism? That belief has gone the way of the dinosaurs. About 1 in 3 people diagnosed with autism as children grow up to have similar outcomes to Aspies.