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Same for me.

I feel the same.

There is nothing wrong with knowing your own limitations.

Guys let me explain point 2.
I don't mean you have to "fight autism" or get out of the comfort zone, but that it annoys me when people want something that is out of their comfort zone, don't do any effort for getting it and complain that it's other people's fault they don't have it.
It is rather common here this (self-pitty?) (arrogant?) attitude.
This is what point 2 is about, it is NOT about co-morbids or being depressed or being anxious or liking to play video games or liking to be in own room or fighting autism or liking the comfort zone or being impaired by autism or liking to share bad experiences or feeling support in a group etc

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And what general point is that?

In that case I'd disagree that such a thing is common here...most posts where someone isn't where they want to be or is unable to attain something they want it does have some to do with co-morbids or disabling aspects of autism and/or being stuck in an abusive or unhealthy situation.

Common? I haven't seen anyone here with that attitude. And it wouldn't bother me if I did, I'd just ignore it. But I wonder where you are seeing this.

Oh you commented already, didn't see it.
unfortunately I found this attitude a lot.
As I said no problem with people that want some help, we are here for helping too. I don't want to discourage anyone to be open about how they feel, that is not my point. I asked for help a couple of times myself.

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People use the word enable wrong:

en·a·ble [en-ey-buhl] Show IPA
verb (used with object), en·a·bled, en·a·bling.
1.
to make able; give power, means, competence, or ability to; authorize: This document will enable him to pass through the enemy lines unmolested.
2.
to make possible or easy: Aeronautics enables us to overcome great distances.
3.
to make ready; equip (often used in combination): Web-enabled cell phones.

Thus I never get when the word is used negatively...the opposite of enable is disable, and I don't thing going around disabling people would serve much purpose. Anyways I don't see anyone encourging the mindset of 'I shouldn't do anything or put any effort into anything and expect everything to fall in my lap and feel sorry for myself when it doesn't'. I see people offering understanding of feeling hopeless and stuck in life or having troubles with motivation and what not...but I don't see how that is enabling anything bad.

Oh - there's something else that annoys me on this site. Say if I'm saying about my cousin with a possible ASD, the answer is always ''their 'ASD' behaviour might be their upbringing'', and if I say ''no, my auntie or uncle have never been a neglectful parent'', I get a string of ''how do you know? Your uncle and auntie might come across as nice but you don't know they could have an evil side what comes out behind closed doors...'' and I'm like ''excuse me, this offends me that this is my uncle and auntie you are talking about, and I believe I know my auntie and uncle a bit more than you do, please don't be so certain about people you have never met.'' So then I have to go into every detail about my cousin's possible ASD behaviour so that I wouldn't get those sorts of replies - but then there has been a recent thread on here complaining about how WP-users write too long posts and calling them selfish.

You can't win here!




ps. This probably goes on anywhere online but this is the only discussion site I mainly use.

Yes, I hate the "we're the next step in evolution", indigo child, solo hunters who are untouched by the brainwashing effects of society view of ASD. It's just a disorder and a disability like any other.

Also, the NT bashing and the bashing of any characteristic not commonly associated with ASD, like extroversion is annoying and no better than bashing ASDers and introverts.

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To me, the debate of diagnosis or not, and talking about neurotypicals and autistics as clearcut groups is sort of over the top.

I feel content that there are people that have the same characteristics as me, and reading about autism/aspergers got me to stop caring about not having a social life. Now I know that it can be normal (for some people) to be odd, and that is a relief.

I think this way about my condition too.



Strongly agree.

@The OP- I don't post or spend much time on WP when I'm annoyed with it but checking the site has become part of my routine so I continue to do that regardless.

This is what I mean: From Wikopedia---bolding, mine:




Seems to me that because it doesn't fit into the way you want to frame things, you are saying the other use of the word---the way I used it-- is wrong. This does not seem to me the best way to communicate with others or solve human problems. Sometimes it is helpful to add information and sometimes it is helpful to subtract it. From my own personal experience with a somewhat limited theory of mind most of my life, it can take a lot of focused attention to be able to discern the difference. Of course people use difference definitions of the same word to be able to go where they are going with certain information. The aim for me is to do it consciously rather than unconsciously or I just end up fooling myself and treading water rather than getting to land. Not saying that you are doing this, but I would be interested to hear how trying to omit this meaning of the word, which most people would understand in the context I used it, can help anyone. Basically I see it as a contrived device to block out my idea and not even try to consider if it might be true. I think it is..well, a form of enabling:-) to those you are trying to protect, and actually it not really helpful to them but even harmful, though I know it is well intended.

I think people are really just trying to figure stuff out here.

I've been here nearly a year and I've seen some people go through some really awful phases where ALL they did was post thread after thread whining and complaining about their lives. I would see threads by them and think OH GOD it's too much, just stop, we know you are unhappy! But as it turns out, people get through those phases and move on to more positive things. Because I've seen this happen repeatedly, I now think that getting through it is actually one of the wonderful functions of this forum.

It's funny, some people I know and have communicated with and some I just read their posts without communicating with them, but I really think there are so many people here who have great things to say. And sometimes I think I don't like someone, but then it turns out later I like them a lot, so I try to keep an open mind.

For the record, I love the teenagers on this thread forum. I don't know one of them that I am not impressed with and they are not self defeating, they are amazing. I keep learning things from them all the time. Fortunately they are too smart (I think) to be cowered by anyone's morbid negativity toward them.

I regret that I agree with the O.P. on this one. I say "regret" because I have read many posts on WP forums in which a person (usually after a rant) seems to be looking for an excuse to give up. While it is absolutely true that each of us needs to understand our limitations, it is also very important for us to lean into our areas of discomfort. That's just part of growing up, whether you're an Aspie or an NT.

Now, what I am not saying is that people who really and truly have reached their limits are just lazy. Not at all. I'm speaking of the ones who could stretch themselves but don't.

Which is a judgment call each of us has to make for ourselves. My hope is that our future selves will be able to thank our present selves for the decisions we've made.

This ^^^. It is especially the younger ones with the super-plastic brains who can push themselves who can transcend limitations.