Do you feel you are easily manipulated?

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12 Mar 2014, 5:34 am

Any trickery involving Logic, science, maths, engineering, and you'd have to work hard to fool me.

But I'm easily manipulated via emotions. Especialy when it's a prety girl with a sob story. I fall for them every time.



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12 Mar 2014, 6:12 am

Not as easily as in the past. As much as I loathe being a pawn in the trickery of others, it has been helpful in identifying common manipulative behaviors. I'm still bound to get screwed over by some people, but at least I have more signs to look out for.


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12 Mar 2014, 6:40 am

It is something you learn to deal with. You have to look at the rationale critically and get secondary advice. Most importantly, don't feel bad for other people when they misunderstand you.

There is no need to let anyone abuse your autism to their gain. Be comfortable with who you are and let that shine through. You also don't need to be cynical or negative.



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12 Mar 2014, 7:00 am

Definitely. I am very naive.
but like other users said it used to be much worse. Nowadays I don't trust people that easily but still can't see when they are being manipulative.
I have a friend which I believe has aspergers and she is very very easily manipulated. Everyone does to her what they want, I try to warn her but she insists people have good intentions.



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12 Mar 2014, 7:02 am

Yes, sometimes it does frustrate me. People can seem to sense I am very gullible. I try and go with my original "vibe" and that serves me well most of the time.



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12 Mar 2014, 7:24 am

Nope. That's one of the perks of growing up in a tough environment, you lose innocence and get cynical early on. I didn't trust other people much. I didn't trust my parents, my brother or some of the teachers. People I've known well and for a long time need to prove themselves to earn my trust. I'm the ultimate non-believer even missionaries don't try talk to me. :D I do realize I could have a few more stable people in my life that I can trust. That would feel so nice. Making friends is so hard, though. I guess I'll keep working on it.


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12 Mar 2014, 10:22 am

Some users said they don't get easily manipulated because they don't trust people much, but I think it requires more than not being trusting.
when someone says something to you you have to think 1- what the person is saying, 2- what they meant, 3- what they want you to think they meant, 4- why they want that, what is their purpose.
so it requires a great ability to even KNOW they want to manipulate you. It's not only about being trusting or naive, even if you are not trusting you may not have the ability to understand the purposes of what people say,



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12 Mar 2014, 11:00 am

At 70 NO ONE can manipulate me anymore
as long as they're under 6 years old.

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12 Mar 2014, 12:27 pm

Verdandi wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.


Yes, that. A phrase I used somewhere was "instill a false sense of peril."

wozeree wrote:
That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.


This kind of blows my mind, though. Not caring about the topic, only the reaction is utterly bizarre to me. Possibly why I don't really get antagonistic trolls.

Absurdist trolls I do get. They can be pretty hilarious, although the frustration they can cause is not quite so funny.


I am the same, re: antagonistic trolls. I make every attempt to stay away from the posts/threads where, clearly they've been ruffling everyone's feathers. I used to attempt to defend and protect. Now I won't go near them, as it makes things worse (and at times can trigger the Hell out of me).



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12 Mar 2014, 12:39 pm

Not so much now but as a teenager, yes, yes and yes! It's another reason why I was bullied so much: I was so literal minded people used to have their way with me and loved to humiliate me. Reminds of a prison documentary I watched where everyone was taking advantage of the new kid who was extremely naive. That was me in school. The only times I got in trouble were when older kids assured me what I was doing was okay and I foolishly believed them and took them at face value. Took many years to realize not everyone is as honest and straightforward as I am!



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12 Mar 2014, 3:35 pm

ZenDen wrote:
At 70 NO ONE can manipulate me anymore
as long as they're under 6 years old.

denny

:lol:



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12 Mar 2014, 4:16 pm

In my diagnostic report for disability it is written, that I am very prone to being manipulated and abused.
I just cannot read the intentions of people, I am mind-blind to it.
So I can be very trusting and childlike naive, or very distrusting,
but still cannot read peoples intentions.
I hear what they say, and that is all I can rely on --- if I get that right.
This counted for having difficulty being employed, because one needs insight into people at least a bit, because otherwise you are prone to being manipulated and abused, and it causes severe stress.


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12 Mar 2014, 4:42 pm

Someone once told me that I let people walk all over me and I shouldn't be so naïve.
Like telling me that ever did any good. :doh:



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12 Mar 2014, 4:44 pm

unfortunately, more often than not, one must deal with aholes by becoming one one's self.



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12 Mar 2014, 5:42 pm

delaSHANE wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.


Yes, that. A phrase I used somewhere was "instill a false sense of peril."

wozeree wrote:
That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.


This kind of blows my mind, though. Not caring about the topic, only the reaction is utterly bizarre to me. Possibly why I don't really get antagonistic trolls.

Absurdist trolls I do get. They can be pretty hilarious, although the frustration they can cause is not quite so funny.


I am the same, re: antagonistic trolls. I make every attempt to stay away from the posts/threads where, clearly they've been ruffling everyone's feathers. I used to attempt to defend and protect. Now I won't go near them, as it makes things worse (and at times can trigger the Hell out of me).


How do you identify them to know not to engage?



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12 Mar 2014, 6:39 pm

auntblabby wrote:
unfortunately, more often than not, one must deal with aholes by becoming one one's self.



Yeah, that's kind-of what I was thinking about this thread. How do you avoid being too naive and trusting and getting manipulated without turning into a distrustful, paranoid cynic, especially when you're bad at reading people?

The only way I can think of is avoiding people and isolating oneself as much as possible. I like my alone time but total reclusion does not seem healthy to me. :lol: