Caleban wrote:
It's not hard to intellectually learn the things that come natural for nts.
It's very hard for nts to learn the things that come natural for a lot of aspies.
I'm sorry but im not going to be objective, i will talk about whats useful to me and the kind of strengths i find worthwhile.
I find aspies infinitely more valuable than nts.
And please dont tell me about the things that nts do that are so good, ive been there, got the t shirt, and i wasnt impressed. I've got a touch of adhd to me and if there was anything nts could do that i wanted to be able to do i would simply do it.
You might be ashamed of yourself but im not.
Ive always thought that it would help with peoples perspectives in places like wrong planet if they actually managed to succeed in the nt world briefly to show them that that the grass isnt so green on the other side. You know, give them a holiday in the nt world, show them just how crap it is so theyre a lot happier being who they are.
Well i cant help people to do something like that, but i can give you the benefit of my experience because it's something i can do, im one of the aspies that has managed gain the skills to blend in, and its not that great really. I found myself wishing to be around people with a little more depth. At the end of the day, i still managed to find myself on this website despite having no real problems around nts, what does that tell you about how good nts are?
I really wish i could impress upon some of the less experienced aspies just how much a lot of the things they wish for are worthless. You don't want to have social skills anyway, theyre not that great. I mean, social skills to do what? hang around with nts? Puleease. Mix with your own kind and you will do fine once you get past the main problem of us being spread out so much.
I disagree with almost all of this.
It is very hard, if not impossible, to intellectually learn the things that come naturally to NTs. I "know" most of the rules of socialising, in theory, but that doesn't count for too much. It is nigh on totally impossible to "learn" how to cope with distressing noise or disgusting food or itchy labels, which NTs don't have the problems with that we do. Real-world organisation can be learned by many people, it requires a shift in thinking but you can definitely get better at it, though some autistic people will struggle with it their whole life.
Aspies do have the ability to learn things that a lot of NTs would find very boring. How useful the ability to memorise train timetables or Pokémon movesets really is, well, I'm not so sure. When it comes to things like science and maths, which Autistic supremacists love to play up, I think NTs are just as well suited at autistic people.
If you don't think NTs have depth, I might suggest you spend more time socialising with them. I appreciate that socialising is very exhausting, but from my experience even very boisterous, hedonistic NTs usually have very nuanced personalities.