is wrongplanet not the right planet for me either?

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29 Mar 2014, 2:18 am

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i'm beginning to feel like i don't belong here any more than i do in the NT world.

anyone else feel like as much of an alien here sometimes as they do out there? sometimes i doubt there is such a thing as a community anywhere in which i could feel accepted, and today is definitely one of those days. i feel like when i speak my mind honestly, no matter to what group of people, all i get are blank stares and no understanding.


Could the right planet be an unrealisticly neat idea you just want to be true?



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29 Mar 2014, 4:34 am

People talk about this stuff in the forums I'm in. The sense of community and other things like strife or bullying or so-in-so was a troll and everyone knew it etc. And I don't pick up on any of that stuff. Thankfully I might add.



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29 Mar 2014, 9:46 am

Life was in a lot of ways easier before I recognized bullying as existing, intentional and directed. Sometimes I still miss bullying, but not like when I was young.

Since you can't go back and miss what you've learned to see, StarvingArtist, can you find a way to care less when people have a negative reaction? Or, see this as a communication problem for which you can offer the other person a chance to explain their point of view and explain yours. If they don't want that, move on.

Occasionally someone is abrupt with me here, and it definitely is upsetting. I try to remember what others are saying, WrongPlanet is a forum about autism largely frequented by people who have difficulty communicating at some level. So when someone is upset by what you write or you are upset by what they write, it might be them, not you. No matter how much they write about how they are right. Sometimes it will be you. But I don't feel convinced I was wrong by more than one person telling me so, just upset and bad. I might wonder if I'm wrong, but to be persuaded I'm wrong is more someone is focused on the details and facts. If what they want is for me to be wrong, I get enough of that in the real world. Very upsetting. But not what I'm here for.

Come here for the ideas, the different ways of thinking, come here for support, come here for whatever you can get that you need. Be open to other points of view. But don't open yourself up to the people who just want to make you wrong.



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03 Apr 2014, 5:22 am

I enjoy your contributions StarvingArtist, and I hope you stick around. You really do have a valid place here.
You are one of the people I look forward to on threads.



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03 Apr 2014, 4:31 pm

Yes. I do, too, and think you pretty much described how I find things exactly.

But at the same time, I wouldn't say I thought that way because I thought I was being excluded by people, I thought it might be a sort of 'missed connection', maybe on my part.

Sorry to hear you feel that way as well. If it means anything, I like you being here, and I think you have just made a positive impact on me by saying what you just did.


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03 Apr 2014, 7:57 pm

you seem to fit in here OK to me.

You did get into that feud with that particular guy. But he was acting asinine. Not you.

Checking out your recent posts it looks to me like your only problem is that you dont "pick your fights", but stumble into every polarizing thread there is.



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03 Apr 2014, 10:43 pm

That guy needs to review his suitability here, not you.



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03 Apr 2014, 10:50 pm

But I hope he learned from that and that he sticks around too. We need this place, we need one another, we all stuff up somehow sometimes.



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04 Apr 2014, 2:44 am

i find the internet can be much more alienating than real life.

i mean, there are the autistic people that invade your personal space and comfort zone and there are the the ones that are more withdrawn/introspective. online, it seems like the type of people (autistic or not) that get in your face that dominate.

i guess the average person is able to filter them out, brush them off or ignore them, but i have a hard time doing that without processing 1st, so you spend time thinking and writing and thinking some more which is draining in and of itself - and when it comes down to it who knows if you even communicated well enough for them to understand, or if they even could or wanted to...when you go through all that i feel like it's easy to get overwhelmed by the negative.

i guess maybe the thing to do is work so you get something out of the process of turning thoughts into words itself and try not to let the content of other posts get to you. although, frankly the randomness of this place is high and it's hard not to get sucked into stuff. it is nice to read about other people that are dealing with similar problems though.



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04 Apr 2014, 3:02 am

starvingartist wrote:

i join in lots of conversations, and it just seems like my opinions are just as problematic here as they are for me when i'm out in the NT world.

i don't feel as weird as everyone else--i feel weirder. even here.


I totally relate to this. But I keep coming back. I don't trust my assessment of being problematic - I have a social impairment lol :P



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04 Apr 2014, 6:01 am

starvingartist wrote:
i'm beginning to feel like i don't belong here any more than i do in the NT world.

anyone else feel like as much of an alien here sometimes as they do out there? sometimes i doubt there is such a thing as a community anywhere in which i could feel accepted, and today is definitely one of those days. i feel like when i speak my mind honestly, no matter to what group of people, all i get are blank stares and no understanding.

if i'm not welcome here, i'd rather not waste my time. should i leave?


Hello, I might be completely off base, but I believe your handle might be a hassle magnet to right wing losers. I understand ginger persecution is a thing; it could be that as well, or it might be nothing. In any case, it's best not to take the criticism of people who post about hentai all day too much to heart :wink:

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all i get are blank stares and no understanding.

Do you mean comprehension, or something to do with emotions? I think the latter is an unrealistic expectation, and the former is difficult to gauge.



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04 Apr 2014, 6:43 am

I get the feeling a lot of people here are relatively normal compared to how I feel.
But then there's probably people on here that seem more normal but they see me as being less severe because I was lucky enough to end up in a long marriage at one point in my life.

I think I would rather feel capable of surviving in a work environment and having a job than having been in a relationship tbh.

Also lots of you have really eloquent posting styles and clearly very good educations whilst I was unlucky enough to attend a failing school and stopped going when I was about 14, I always see my posts as repetitive and child like in comparison and at times often wonder just how much sense they even make.

BTW this was the school I went to
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/ ... tures11.g2

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In 1996, 14 inspectors from Ofsted, the independent school inspections agency, visited the school in Bulwell. A report was then written up by one of them, Andrew Lyons. 'Despite valiant efforts by the staff,' Lyons noted, 'the school fails to provide a continuous learning experience to pupils in a manner that enables them to have a full access to their legal entitlement, the national curriculum.' Lyons observed that the number of pupils achieving 5 A-C grade passes in GCSEs was only 8% (the national average is 41%); a quarter of the pupils were leaving without any qualifications. He pointed to poor attendance among the pupils; he alluded to staff absenteeism, a high exclusion rate, poor discipline, emotionally troubled pupils and a low level of parental interest in school affairs. The school was failing.

What chance did I really have at a normal life anyway with a secondary school like that... I also blame that school for never being diagnosed as a child, any normal school would have looked into why I completely stopped going for my last 2 years of education, I know autism and aspergers were still pretty unknown back then but it was obvious I wasn't normal. (my parents had no idea I was skipping school because they both worked and the school never cared to tell them)
college didn't even occur to me when I was young, Where I lived everyone just left school and got crappy jobs so I assumed that was just the done thing and only the middle classes got a good education.

it wasn't until later on in my life when I moved to a different city that I realised almost everyone had a college or university education :oops:

This is the UK though so I guess when it comes to education it's a lot different than somewhere like the USA where TV tells us your parents will work 3 jobs if it means they can pay for a college education.



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04 Apr 2014, 6:56 am

I enjoy your contributions a lot OP, your viewpoints are often highly agreeable. Please don't leave.

You're pretty and it's nice to have some eye candy on the forum :lol:.


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06 Apr 2014, 7:31 am

Number one thread killer.


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06 Apr 2014, 9:32 pm

ToJaFro wrote:
I enjoy your contributions a lot OP, your viewpoints are often highly agreeable. Please don't leave.

You're pretty and it's nice to have some eye candy on the forum :lol:.


This, only slightly less creepy. :wink:

Seriously, though, I hope the OP sticks around.

I understand what it's like to feel snubbed, even dismissed on here, and to feel like sometimes, even here, that I'm a huge weirdo who constantly offends people.
I think that's normal.
Very, very normal.

In some sense, being autistic is always having the feeling of being an outsider, even amongst one's peers.

I hope you, OP, realize that it's just a feeling and that we do appreciate your perspective, input, and contribution, however it may seem to you at times.



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08 Apr 2014, 12:14 am

I'm the same. I can't seem to find "my place" there are a few WP members I have on FB in which I seem to relate to, but the majority of the people here: No.

I tend to only relate to the very high functioning members who don't whine a lot.