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08 May 2014, 8:27 am

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I didn't trust my diagnosis. I knew I wouldn't either way. If it was a 'no', I'd be insistent I was. If it was a 'yes', I'd insist I wasn't.

Me too. On one hand, something like Asperger's would explain an awful lot about me; but on the other hand, I strongly resemble certain characteristics associated with "Melancholic" introverted personality type, and I've read that its actually very common for someone with this "normal" personality to wonder what sort of disorders they have, sometimes to the extent of seeking out a diagnosis...

On my second visit to the psychologist (the one where she gave me her results), the first thing that I said when I walked in was, "I'm so sorry! I don't have Asperger's. I'm a very introverted person with a Melancholic personality. I'm embarrassed for visiting a specialist in autism."

She said, "O reeeeally? What makes you think that?" :lol:

So I gave her all the excuses. She said, "According to the test that you filled out, you're probably on the spectrum."

I said, "I must have misunderstood some of the questions!"

Her: "You scored 125. Anything over 65 is potentially Asperger's."

Me: "That's a lot of questions to misunderstand."

Her: "Yes, it is. Here are some pivotal ones...do you feel that you misunderstand this? Or this?"

Me: "Nope, those are correct."

Her: "I'm convinced that you have Asperger's."

so you did the RAAD-S?
This is my favorite one. A deep emotional intimate level of relationship with this test. I probably read it more than 20 times (and copied each question too).
She shouldn't base on your answers anyway! A relative has to do the test for you first, without knowing that it is about aspergers or a syndrome or something. And then there has to be a comparison of the answers to ensure accuracy!



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08 May 2014, 10:03 am

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I mentioned that my difficulties in having anything to say were convincing to my psychologist (not sure why); for me it was social withdrawal when I was 12. I was homeschooled but we belonged to a co-op and there were lots of opportunities to have a decent social life. When I start believing the story that people around me tell ("You were just improperly socialized as a homeschooler - get around people more and you'll be fine!"), I remind myself that even socially-backward homeschoolers don't decide to stop all unnecessary communication with anyone for many years on end. When my family would go to other people's houses, my mom and sister would go have lots of fun interacting with all of their friends; I would sit in a corner and read, draw, try to sleep...people would try to speak to me and, so far as possible, I would just nod or shake my head.

I really don't want to be annoying but reading this post I would say "introvert" again.
basically what you are describing is being an introvert. Can you tell us what are the aspie traits you have? By far none of this sounds like more than introvert
social withdraw and sitting in a corner while people are having fun with each other? Introvert. At most schizoid.

answering your question, what makes me know I am not NT...
well, sometimes I do doubt my diagnosis. But I can hardly spend a day without being re-convinced. In fact I can hardly spend a day being able to forget I am an aspie. Everything I do or go through screams "aspie". sensory overload, executive dysfunction, social difficulties, stimming, meltdowns, lack of emotional control, hate of change, prosopagnosia (etc etc etc), or simply being weird no matter if I am trying to fake normal and I have no idea what is making others see me as weird.

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Every time I wonder if I am NT I get a big reminder that I am not. Usually it's a sensory overload thing or a huge gap in my ability to communicate of do things that involve executive function. Or the people who know me best tell me I did or said something "Autistic".


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Yeah, I start thinking I'm fine, I'm just as functional as anyone else, until I run smack into a situation that reminds me I'm not.


also it is about having lots of traits that alone could be caused by other things but together means being aspie!
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what are the odds that someone with sensory issues, obsessive interests, executive functioning deficits, concrete/literal thought patterns, social difficulties, emotional problems, stimming behaviors, and delayed language development is NOT on the spectrum? Razz



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08 May 2014, 6:11 pm

I'm not diagnosed yet. Hopefully gonna get an assessment this year.

Why I think I'm not NT:

-little to no eye contact
-rarely join in conversations unless someone specifically asks me something
-find it hard to verbalize my thoughts, which makes it hard to have conversations because they feel too fast paced.
-prefer to communicate though text
-don't always catch sarcasm
-sometimes take things literally
-obsessive about my interests
-crowds and loud environments are very stressful
-shutdowns (rare, but happen)
-interested in parts of objects. (when I was young I'd take anything apart I could get my hands on and keep and play with the interesting parts)
-somewhat less empathy than "normal"
-find it hard to connect with people
-stimming (wasn't very obvious for most of my life, but I started letting myself stim more and more obviously, and it started feeling natural)
-asexual
-almost ritualized routines (ways of making foot, ect...)
-executive functioning issues
-anxiety over changes in plans
-sometimes use sounds instead of words


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09 May 2014, 6:18 am

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I really don't want to be annoying but reading this post I would say "introvert" again.
basically what you are describing is being an introvert. Can you tell us what are the aspie traits you have? By far none of this sounds like more than introvert
social withdraw and sitting in a corner while people are having fun with each other? Introvert. At most schizoid.

Annoying is allowed! :lol:

As I said, I'm not sure why the psychologist picked that particular trait to find convincing. I think it might have been more than introversion, though, because introverts still do socialize somewhat, they just have a different way of doing it than extroverts. I stopped communicating at 11 or 12 because I felt like, that way, I could just be myself without pretending; I felt more "real." Connecting to other people wasn't "real" to me at that time.

Supposedly I do fit into all 3 categories necessary for a diagnosis. As a patient, I did wonder if I was Aspergian, but if I had been the psychologist, I probably wouldn't have diagnosed me (at least not that quickly!) because, although I feel like I struggle a lot, its hard for me to say I'm actually "disabled." For instance, the only sensory issue that I seem to have is my hearing; loud noise hurts and certain sounds are especially aggravating and can cause anxiety (especially eating or chewing gum) and I always have earplugs with me "just in case," but its not like I get migraines or panic attacks over it - then again I'm usually able to escape said noises, maybe it would be different if I had to live with it all the time.

I do have very narrow interests that I think about most of the day, but that could just mean that I'm boring. :P



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09 May 2014, 12:54 pm

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I think it might have been more than introversion, though, because introverts still do socialize somewhat, they just have a different way of doing it than extroverts. I stopped communicating at 11 or 12 because I felt like, that way, I could just be myself without pretending; I felt more "real." Connecting to other people wasn't "real" to me at that time.

some introverts do socialize. others are loners/antisocial. Plus it could be schizoid. Do you know schizoid?

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Supposedly I do fit into all 3 categories necessary for a diagnosis. As a patient, I did wonder if I was Aspergian, but if I had been the psychologist, I probably wouldn't have diagnosed me (at least not that quickly!)

It certainly was quickly but maybe you are obviously aspie. I don't know. What I am criticizing is that if she used an assesment test she should have also asked a relative to do it for you. Just curious, how old are you? And do your family know about the diagnosis?

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because, although I feel like I struggle a lot, its hard for me to say I'm actually "disabled." For instance, the only sensory issue that I seem to have is my hearing; loud noise hurts and certain sounds are especially aggravating and can cause anxiety (especially eating or chewing gum) and I always have earplugs with me "just in case," but its not like I get migraines or panic attacks over it - then again I'm usually able to escape said noises, maybe it would be different if I had to live with it all the time.

I do have very narrow interests that I think about most of the day, but that could just mean that I'm boring. :P

don't worry, many of us don't feel 'disabled', but impared in some areas or just different.



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09 May 2014, 8:42 pm

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some introverts do socialize. others are loners/antisocial. Plus it could be schizoid. Do you know schizoid?
Actually I did wonder about Schizoid Personality Disorder for a while, but it really didn't seem to fit that well. I realized that I actually did really want friendships; I thought I didn't for the longest time until I realized how much I was trying to please people to make them like me. :roll:

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It certainly was quickly but maybe you are obviously aspie. I don't know. What I am criticizing is that if she used an assesment test she should have also asked a relative to do it for you. Just curious, how old are you? And do your family know about the diagnosis?
I'm 29; my family is aware that I was diagnosed. It ended up becoming pretty public; a lot of people aren't very surprised, though others say "But you make eye contact! You have conversations! It can't be!" But no, nobody was asked to take the test with me.

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don't worry, many of us don't feel 'disabled', but impared in some areas or just different.


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09 May 2014, 11:52 pm

My sensory issues. Feeling like the majority of NTs' are insane. Not understanding the meaning or especially the purpose for age appropriate. Wishing I had the social skills of even a 3 year old. Still confusing right from left. Lack of need for power and prestige and totally confused as to why anyone would badly want either of them. Makeup, nails, clothing styles; sometimes I find them fun to play[ today my daughter brought me to a "smashbox" counter for a birthday makeover and I had the woman make me look like an "old french whore"] with but I have no idea why it's expected every day. Niceness and integrity mean everything to me. I couldn't be part of "groupthink" if I wanted to. It irks me to no end that I can have a shirt that I find comfortable and attractive, but, no matter how clean it is, if I get even a simple mustard stain on it, it is no longer considered presentable. That I stim nonstop. That I "lose my words." That even I can't read my handwriting.