NT trying to grasp daughter's abstract language problems

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not a thinking problem, it's a listening problem. She is not interested maybe so she does not listen for the key words of the questions like where, when, who etc. I do much better with these types of questions in written form. (but she can't read yet). Sometimes in conversations, I just tend to pick out what words I am interested in but don't really listen enough to understand the whole picture.

Looking at schools. Most kids have the same problem. The teacher will be doing a lesson on a subject: say hats and some kids will put up their hand and say their uncle wears a hat. It has nothing to do with what the lesson is.

I won't worry about it. Your kids doesn't have to "pass" every question the worker gives them. She seems to like your play better anyway.

Hmmmm...depends what we mean by abstract thought and what level, doesn't it? When I was nearly 4 I sat down at my desk and started writing my autobiography (I didn't know it was called that at the time or that many people do it). I was a fluent reader and writer by that time. But I remember very clearly thinking, 'I haven't got enough to write about, I'm going to begin this later on in my life when I've done more things.' (I remember my age precisely because of what I'd written and my solemn promise to myself). That all seems to me to be pretty abstract!

Small talk is the water in your coffee. It's bland, it's boring, but for most it's pretty much needed as a filler (socially). Not everyone can handle a straight shot of instant coffee and sugar with a dash of milk (think of the coffee, milk, sugar etc being the stuff of interest, the meaty subjects, the stuff that counts)

For some, the enjoyment of the drink as a whole is why they buy coffee. Every content counts toward the enjoyment.

For others, the caffiene and sugar is why they do it - a purely functional beverage. In this case, the coffee is far more important than the water.

While it's important that you do play the game a little when it comes to going out for coffee as a group, people just need to learn that not everyone likes their coffee watery Espresso shot plz.

Now I finally know why I like my double shot of espresso in the morning! I thought it was because I lived in Italy for two years! Just kidding you, Shale. Great explanation. We all get different coffee in the morning and it's okay.


Squaretail,

I wonder why when they have them work in groups they want them all to work the same way. What is strange about that is that in business one of the first things you learn is about how people communicate (that's how I ended up taking the Meyers Briggs or Kersey several times). Then, you're taught to take that and make the team functional according to different people's strengths and how to communicate best with each type of person. It almost seems like school is working in opposition to that theory or like they only get it half right. Very strange if they are doing this to prepare them for real life.

Sorry. Just thought about that during the afternoon and wondered about it.

Zanne

Who cares! - noted some-one still does it at 47 - yeah I still do it at 28 -- especially so in my second language (or is it my first?)

-It's really in-explainable - like the word I just made up , in-explainable - you can't put two pro-nouns together in the inglish language, yet aspie don't see this as inlogical (yes it's illogical).

-I am do this Where when ,how why , plural, negate stuff alot more in my second language -- I think mainly because I never had an education in my second language.

-Eduaction - just normal education in school, will curb most instances of getting the 'seting' question associated with the answer.... you don't need a language expert for her to go tooo ,, she seems bright enough to be able to learn it on her own,,, if she can remember and associate dinosuar qualities to unrelated objects, then she will be more than adept at constucting associations with phrases (on te odd occasion some associations will be new, where she will stuff up) e.g she already learnt the Ktichen as where ,, but later on may be asked where do you sleep ,, 10 'o clock may still be the answer unless some-one prompts her that it's the bedroom

To squaretail,

I am sometimes not understandable to NT's (& vice versa). Firstly, I know nothing about children. But, I am an autistic scientist/chemist. I am an analytical thinker and mechanically inclinded. And, I am artistic (I like to draw, paint, etc). I am very feminine physically and in my mannerisms. Listen to the words written; the last 6 sentences are for context.

At my laboratory this week I approached the sample custodian and said (quote): "0700107803-1A, it is in your hood. May I have it now?" He sort of knows me so he had me repeat, slowly, the last significant digits so he could find my reagent. Often I point or gesture. Maybe you could play charades with your girls to communicate! I memorize choreographed cues to interact plus I am sometimes slow to respond since I'm translating for you. I cannot anticipate what you want. I say what I mean in a cogent way, which may be inherently abstract. I like to draw/write notes for my co-workers often too, if necessary to communicate. My co-worker has said analysts (which I am) follow like this: A B C..... Then, he said, I do this: A, B, G, Z, and then numbers (not necessarily base 10 either). Do you understand?

And, I have a friend that is an older man, my preference. Not to be revealing, but instead illustrative: When he recently visited me we became intimate. I asked him, in my shy way: "Will you make love to me? Comply."

I am abstract. I am pure thought.

It's never too young to begin reading instruction. My mother began introducing me to books practically from the time I was born. As a result, I still love reading today and perform well in my job at the library.

I don't like too many questions. While I do well with questions involving facts and general knowledge, I don't like steady streams of "What did you do today?" and similar questions. I really don't think others are interested, anyway.

I got a 60 on your quiz.

I could read at four but rarely spoke, whatever I said, I was told it was wrong, so I quit.

Who, what, where, when, starting a sentence are still vauge to me. Each has many possible meanings, where do we eat, edge of a small galexey, minor star, third rock, western himisphere. north america, this state, county, town, in the house, sometimes in front of the TV, when I am sick in bed, walking around with a sandwich or snack, is this the WHERE do we eat?, which means I am doing it in the wrong place, or the one that is about with family, or a hundred other things, and a lot of trick questions, is this an attempt at humor?

Then you switch to when. When in the course of human events, March 11, 1869, as we do this, what time do we do this, we clean our plates, not talk at the table, no toys, and the chain starts up again and I can not process the rest of the sentence till I have an exact meaning for the first word.

It is as contextual as Valley Girl speak.

Quit with the W grunts, define your terms or go speak to someone else. It is not hard, We eat at 9 AM puts it in a time context, if this is a silverware question please frame it as such.

The statement is , "???? we eat." Try it on Goggle and see how many hits you get. GIGO, Garbage In Garbage Out. I am going to have you picked up and sent to a reeducation camp till you can speak to computers. Your coding skills use rocks!

At least she has a sister, they have a network, and an anti virus program to protect the operating system.

Someone in this group is learning impaired.

My mom was at my place. I rent from my brother, and she found a spare jacket in the unrented room, and brought it to me. she framed her question thus:

"Whos jacket is this?"

To which I responded, "I dont know." Because I didnt! This annoyed her to no end though, and she said "Only two people live here! Its either yours or your brothers."

My answer was perfectly valid. It wasnt mine, and it wasnt in my brothers room(though he owns the house), I'd never seen him wear it, maybe someone left it?

So why phrase it open endedly?