"He's an odd bird? maybe Asperger's or something?"

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Thank you blueblahbleh. My sentaments exactly.

lol no offence taken.

I've disclosed that I still have ASD traits & tendencies, but they're only ~5% as intense as they used to be. It's essentially what I call a "functional cure," as it allows me to function higher than ever. My symptoms were life crippling for years, and now I've been back to work more than full time for over a year, am happier & healthier and physically fitter than ever, and have accumulated some financial wealth I've never had before in my life. In just over 1 year I've gone from my bankruptcy discharging and having a few hundred dollars to my name to being up approximately $27K in cash & stocks. My abilities to work, socialize, and do pretty much anything in life have all improved immensely and I'm not looking back.. I'm only going to keep moving forward, onward, and up!

But I still have AS traits and tendencies. For the most part only I know about them and notice them. The gait to my step, the slight prosody difference in my voice, my formal & articulate speech, a bit of visual thinking for problem solving, the occasional eye contact avoidance that I pick up on but no one ever comments on, some routines etc - all very minimal and subtle compared to the way things used to be for me + the depression/anxiety/dyspraxia/fatigue/high OCD/ADHD/executive functioning problems/sensory issues and so on.

Even if I can never ever 100% rid myself of all signs & symptoms, this whole journey has been 100% worth while. Also, there are some traits that make me better at a lot of things than I might be if I truly were NT. I would never ever ever choose to go back to the dark days of symptoms crippling my life's progress in every aspect.

Altruism.

Doing this has changed my life so much for the better that I can't keep it to myself when others (truly) suffer from the same condition/symptoms.

It's not about persuading people that I am correct. I know this to be true for myself as I've lived my own experiences of having my brain functions return and improve over the last couple of years. It doesn't matter whether people tell me I'm wrong or a liar or whatever - I know what I know as I've lived it. It's not about being "right," it's about sharing what has worked so miraculously well for me that I hope can change others' lives for the better as it has mine & that is it.

Right from the original thread discussion in my signature I've said that. When others accused me of trying to sell them something or said that I could make a bunch of money writing a book I pointed out that I'm not selling anyone anything, I've given the information away for free and have said go support your local shops buying these medicinal foods/herbs etc. I've also said I'm not interested in profiting from this, especially since the people who could utilize this info most are likely as broke as I used to be and cannot afford to pay any amount of money if they're incapable of working & earning themselves a living due to their own symptoms.

I continue to bring it up vs. just drop it because I feel it is that important and valuable, and if it reaches even just one person and changes their life as it has mine - fantastic! Further, I know that many people on the spectrum are very very stubborn and it may take time for them to accept the possibility that what I have been telling them is the God's honest truth. That combined with the fact that all of those articles I've posted links to, as well as more since then I'm sure, have all come out since I posted the original thread - meaning there's more and more information out there pointing to hard scientific evidence of what I'm telling you all here is fact - so as time goes on, there's a greater probability that people will begin to believe me and that some may be willing to try this diet/detox/healing protocol for themselves. So, I'll persist in sharing how it's benefited me and continue to offer to help anyone who'd like to pm me to discuss it in any capacity.

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It's been my experience that these comorbid diagnoses are all exacerbated by the same thing and its entirely treatable. Most doctors have absolutely zero knowledge of any of this because they weren't taught it. Naturopaths are the best bet to maybe have some knowledge of it. MD's aren't kept up to date on every bit of the latest research into ASD treatments. Further, they're kept up to date on treatments by pharmaceutical sales reps? so why would they be taught any of this that doesn't make a profit for the medical/pharmaceutical industry? Too many people think that Doctors are omniscient gods that are the authority figure on everything health related when in fact they are just as fallible as any other human being on the planet. That's why I've chosen to trust myself and my own experiences over someone else telling me what I can or cannot do. If I were one to trust only the word of an MD and inquired about ASD treatments and they told me "sorry son, there are no specific pharmaceuticals for this? we can try you on some ADHD stimulants & antidepressants until we find the right chemical cocktail to make you feel better" (which I did do that for several years before I knew any different, FYI) and simply took their word for it I'd have never learned and done what I have.. and that would be a sad way to live.

I haven't diagnosed anyone. I've shared my story that the myriad of symptoms I've had have all improved dramatically for doing this. I've also said time and time again not to take my word for it, nor wait 5-10 years for medical trials & results, but rather to simply try it for yourself beginning with the epsom salts & diet and see for yourself if it works for you as it has me. That's all the proof anyone should need of whether or not it's going to benefit you or not. What better proof than one's own experience that can be had within a matter of weeks? None that I can think of.

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I personally believe that Autism can have more than one cause. That makes sense to me and would explain, in my opinion, why the severity can be so dramatically different across the Spectrum. This is my personal thought on this and I think it is worth looking into. I believe many Auties/Aspies are hard wired from birth and I have seen research that says it happens in the second trimester of pregnancy. But I am not convinced that every single Autistic person has the same cause. So I think that that is why different protocols work better for some than for others.[/quote]

Yes, I too think that it is likely that autism is "overdetermined" - (scientific jargon for "having more than one cause").

Fixed ideas take a lot of time and exposure to alternatives until they are generally taken up. It still surprises people to hear that identical twins are not truly identical.

Epigenetics, and our increasing knowledge drawn from its discoveries, is changing the whole ball game.

What has not changed, and won't, is that we are all absolutely unique: your genes, dna, and their modifications throughout life will happen in patterns that no other human on earth can replicate. Biologically, each individual in a process of constant modification; we like to think of ourselves as kind of "fixed selves" but we are not. Change is the only certainty.

So there will be no "one size fits all" improvement regimes. However some things will consistently help some people. Goldfish found that his regime helped him. I believe him, and good for him. Gaba helped me. But I think it's still very important to keep an open mind.

Christ, I wish there was an ignore feature. On forums where there is one, I virtually never use it; even the stupidest or trollish of people occasionally have something interesting to say, if only by accident.

But my eyes literally glaze over at goldfish's walls of text. They are insufferable to me and indistinguishable from the many walls of text I have had to endure from enthusiastic newbies who know nothing about Crohn's disease proselytising about the "cure" on the Crohn's forum I frequent.

It's this simple: goldfish either never was autistic in the first place or he is autistic and his "miracle cure" is his autistic obsession.

lol you're welcome to do as you've always done and get as you've always got. I'm going to continue doing this and live a happier healthier wealthier life of joy & abundance instead of autistic frustration and misery.

I wish you the best Goldfish and I really appreciate you sharing your story and the info you share. I think that the more holistic and natural you can do things and live life the better. And if people can be helped by trying some of the things you have done that is great. I also think that if people are not interested it is just as easy to not read the threads and posts and just read what they are interested about.

@goldfish - lolzers, "joy and abundance". Yeah okay, mate. Sounds like you're even more desperate to convince yourself of this than other people.

The holistic approach is, 99% of the time, a sham. That's not to say I think modern medicine is perfect; in fact on a personal level it failed me (I have a real disease you see, requiring powerful immunesuppressants and surgery. Real diseases require real treatments.) But I'm not gonna do what I have seen so many other people do; turn to the scammers and shysters who make a mint out of selling supplements instead. Have you seen a picture of Mercola's mansion? The guy must make as much as money as any CEO of a pharmaceutical company.

Not sure what's so funny to you about the phrase "joy and abundance," but whatever, I'll just carry on being happier and having more money, friends, positive experiences etc.

Plants have been used in their natural forms as medicine for thousands of years. There's no scam about the medicinal properties of plants.

I have no idea who Mercola is, so no I haven't seen a picture of his mansion nor do I know what his business is.

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Mercola is not the god and end all of holistic medicine.

OK, first up naturopaths are universally clueless, by definition, otherwise they wouldn't be naturopaths. Anyone who doesn't believe in evidence-based medicine is not someone to consult on what you should do with your body or how to look after your health.

Secondly, you misrepresent how doctors work. Whilst they are human and don't have the ability to keep up with every advance, their education is lifelong and they are keeping up with advances. Whilst much of their information is provided by industry, they also keep up to date with scientific journals. The suggestion that they don't do anything that doesn't profit the pharmaceutical industry is nonsense. Most of my experience with doctors has involved them talking about diet, hydration and exercise, as the solution to issues varying from cardiovascular troubles to anxiety, sleeplessness and IBS. If they were pharma shrills then I'd be hooked on codeine and taking beta blockers, anti-depressants and Diazepam. Pills are a last resort.

Goldfish21, I really wanted to not have to argue with you, but you?re getting on my nerves now. Firstly, why should I try it your way to see if it works? Why bother if I don?t know if it will or not? Why take the words of one individual if it conflicts with medical science? The burden of proof is on you, not me, because you?re the one who says it works. Prove it. Don?t tell me to prove it. I?m not the one who is trying to. By the way, we have the NHS in my country. We don?t pay for our medical treatment, unlike Americans. So doctors and pharmaceutical manufactures get little financial benefit from peddling drugs in my country. Yet they still agree that ASD can?t be cured, ever, for exactly the same reasons that American doctors say this can?t happen. Besides which, even if they did, people who sell alternative medicine are selling the herbal remedies to you. They are getting financial gain from telling you ?This will help you cure Autism.? For all I know, you might be paid by them. You did mention that you?ve gotten more money now that you?ve started this treatment, but were desperate for cash before. If medical doctors say there isn?t a pill to cure Autism then aren?t they losing money, instead of gaining it? Wouldn?t them claiming that there is a cure for Autism be more financially advantageous for them? You?re on shaky ground with that one.

Anyway, let?s say you have cured you?re self. Good for you. Now why can?t you go and be happier elsewhere, and leave the rest of us in peace, since it?s clearly bugging people? You say that you no longer have ?depression/anxiety/dyspraxia/fatigue/high OCD/ADHD?. How does your cure manage to cure 7 problems, if you count Autism and all of those? They aren?t all caused by Autism. They aren?t all symptoms of Autism. Maybe it cures death too, but I somehow doubt it has such amazing powers. Maybe the cure you?ve discovered cured those things I?ve put in quotation marks, but not Autism. This means that fewer things are hurting you, so you can concentrate more, so you?re Autistic traits appeared to have lessened. This doesn?t mean they have. Correlation is not cause.

I haven?t had time to look into all of the articles you?ve posted. I?m about half way through them, but I intend to show you any weaknesses I find in them once I?m done. I?ve already spotted several. By the way, in one of the threads in which you posted an article that you?ve shared a link to, you specifically said that people need to be on exactly the same diet as you, including all the supplements, in order to show improvement. So just eating a few more vegetables and herbs for a couple of weeks won?t change my lifestyle much, according to you. It won?t be the cure. Perhaps you would have more credibility if you make up your mind. It can?t change from ?You need to be on a restrictive diet? to ?You don?t need a major change in lifestyle? just because it suits your argument.

Why wait for 5 to 10 years? Because I trust doctors and don?t trust one non-expert?s opinion. Especially given your poor grasp of logic. My symptoms are the same as yours now, without changing my diet. Most people don?t notice that I have Aspergers, including some people who?ve met people that have it. I don?t have the same crippling symptoms that you did, so why would I waste my time by trying your techniques? Assuming you do have Autism, and weren?t just misdiagnosed, which is more common than you?d think.

I suspect you?ll never give up, no matter how excellent someone else?s arguments are, and how bad your counter-arguments are. However, if you wish to agree to disagree right now then I?m fine with that. As long as you realize that it means you have to stop debating this. I won?t let you continue to peddle questionable cures and false hope, using faulty logic, if I can help it.

This is a simplification. Yes, doctors don't financially benefit from giving us this drug or that drug, but the NHS still has to buy the drugs from the manufacturers and the manufacturers try and lobby doctors in all sorts of weird ways.

If you are so inclined, check out Ben Goldacre's books. I wish more people had read "Bad Science", which mostly targets quackery, but you'd probably learn more from "Bad Pharma".

Whilst that's true, there are certain differances. For example, it's less common to see adverts for medicine in the UK, unless it's mild painkillers or something like that. Still, I see your point. It doesn't dissmiss my other arguments though.