"Everyone has AS to some degree." This reply ok?

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^ So sorry to hear all of that, Skibum!

I am surrounded by people who have many autistic traits, so I dont' a problem with these statements.
To me, it does appear that eberryone has autism to some degree.
It is surprise to me when I meet someone who doesn't appear to have autism to some degree.
But this is because of my environment and inhabitants in it.

Thank you Skil. Life can be challenging but like they say, when we have been dealt lemons, sometimes we just have to learn to make lemonade!

Yes, I definitely have this problem as well.

All right. Sorry for saying you don't understand physical illness.



*facepalms*

Good grief.

You people seem to want to have your cake and eat it! On the one hand, you sneer at NTs for daring to suggest that, hey, they might have a few problems too, but on the other hand you all want to be unique and precious snowflakes!

Holy crap.

Looking forward to it. Thanks!

Can NTs learn these games as well?

I mean, if you're so high-functioning what's the difference between you and a stressed-out NT anyway?

Cake, etc.

Thanks.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

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NiceCupOfTea, I'm not exactly sure what makes you feel the way you're feeling right now but I didn't intend for this thread to upset anyone. I simply wanted some help with figuring out what to do.

I can only speak for myself but I have never, not even once, ever sneered at an NT for having a few problems or for daring to suggest that they had problems. If you are addressing this to me, you don't know me at all. And you forget that for almost a half century of my life I thought I was an NT.

I have always said here on this forum and everywhere that EVERYONE has challenges whether they are on the Spectrum or not. I come for a medical family. I grew up in hospitals, I understand challenges. I have been in hospitals in fourth world countries and seen illnesses and challenges that a lot of people can't even imagine. But just because everyone has challenges does not put everyone on the Spectrum. I don't understand your point of view at all and why you are being so abrasive.

And I don't recall anyone here wanting to be a unique and precious snowflake. What we are talking about here is the problem with people who think that EVERYBODY on the planet is on the Spectrum and how to address that. If everybody was on the Spectrum why would we need a diagnosis? It would just be the normal way and we would not struggle with sensory overload because the whole world would be catered to accommodate that.

You say this like you really have no idea. And yes, NT's can lean these games but they won't like them.

Just half the thread was taken up with sniggering at NTs and their silly little exaggerations, but nah no sneering was going on - none at all. (That was sarcasm, by the way.)

Thing is, it would be funny if it were actually accurate satire and hit close to the bone, but it missed the mark wildly. I have several NT members in my family with severe mental health problems, and I would wager some of them have more severe social problems than you do. Yes, when they're 'well', they can socialise just great - when they're not having a nervous breakdown, staying in a psychiatric ward, losing their jobs due to paranoia, or whatever. Living the life of riley, they are. Their struggles don't even begin to compare with being a positive-thinking, happily-married autistic woman who's achieving the things she wants to achieve. But hey, all they need to do is pick up some lemons and make some lemonade, and everything will be lovely, and cute, and adorably naive and childish....

I misunderstood the sarcasm, sorry for that.

I also have very close relatives who have very severe mental illnesses and who have a much harder time socially than I do so I know about that. And unless you are in my home you have absolutely no idea what my marriage is like and how much of a huge struggle it is to keep it going on a daily basis. In fact I was just talking to my mom today and she told me that if she was me there is no way that she would be able to be married and go through what I go through to stay married. If you knew how often we have come close to divorce and how often I have considered suicide you would not have said what you said. And yes, there are things that I enjoy and I am capable of. My life is extremely difficult but I am very grateful that there are some things that I can do. And so I try to enjoy them to the fullest because they are all I have.

You also don't know the struggles that I have socially or the struggles I have had trying to work and the consistent failures I have had at those things for over half a century. You also have no idea of the responsibilities that I have and how much of a struggle it is to be responsible for things and for people when you are not mentally capable of performing the tasks needed to do that. And you have no idea of the consequences I have to endure regularly because I consistently fail at many of these tasks despite being so "high functioning." And then to have to try to recover from these consequences on a near daily basis and have to keep trying again and again, yeah, that's real cute, adorably naive, and childish.

But because people like you look at me on the surface and think that I am so high functioning and capable they say things to me like you just did. And the pressure of having to endure that all the time on top of everything else, yeah, that's real fun. Nothing but a big bowl of cherries there. Right now I just want to say to take your post and stick it somewhere dark and moist.

And yes, I try to stay positive as much as I can because otherwise I would let my depression which I struggle with severely and my anxiety which is also overwhelming lead me down paths that I might not recover from ever if I am not careful. So please remember before you make such huge assumptions and generalizations about a person's life, that the few lines you see on a forum might not at all be truly representational of how much that person actually struggles. There are many times when my life is literally hanging on by a thread and it takes everything I can muster to not do something destructive. So please be careful when you make such comments about someone you have never met and know almost nothing about.

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I think the sniggering and sneering was more aimed at the "everyone's a little bit autistic" idea than "everyone's got problems".

Thank you Walrus for explaining. I totally misunderstood that part.