Why did God invent Autism
I agree, it's only a punishment if we persist in comparing our experience to the prevailing/dominant one and concluding that things should somehow be better. My path through life has been richly rewarding in those areas where I have not had to conform to the letter of the expectations of others. I see and grasp things NTs cannot or will not. Their experience is their own, as my experience is mine. I gave up trying to evaluate individualized episodes in my experience due to the tendency to then assign to them emotional responses. "Yeah? So?" has replaced all kinds of consternation and anxiety. Your mileage may vary.
Sorry but my symptoms are severe and I'm on disability due to them. It's like being thankful for AIDS. Every case is different.
Sorry but my symptoms are severe and I'm on disability due to them. It's like being thankful for AIDS. Every case is different.
Ok, I may have went too far with my assertion BUT I don't think many of our problems would be as problematic if society wasn't geared towards neurotypicals over and above others. In a society where a majority of people had autism, I think it would be current neurotypicals that would have more problems...
That said - thinking about it more - there are areas (such as being more easily taken advantage of and freezing at the side of the road) that would be problematic either way... I wouldn't go comparing autism with AIDs though!
I guess I just don't like the tone. We may have weaknesses, but we also have strengths. We are not some punishment on the world, we are individual, worthwhile and often awesome people who I feel on the whole make the world a better place. I'd bet that many of the worlds most influential thinkers and scientists throughout history were on the spectrum. We should be proud of who we are, warts and all.
To make us all think. To nudge us over time into appreciating variety. For us to support others who need support and bond people in the process. Also if we're going to properly entertain the idea of the Christian God, there are consequences to what originally happened.
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My point is that a lot of us are born with a s**t sandwich effectively. But remember how certain species like insects are given certain features to help them adapt to their environment over time?
That's the key word: adapt. And it seems to come out of nowhere.
So my question is, since so many people seem to be affiliated with this 'condition', is this a step towards adaption?
Evolutionary changes need to change allele frequencies.
Autistic people do not have more offspring than NTs, so "autistic alleles" do not become more common in the population over time... Unless we have some kind of kin selection effect, autism is not an evolutionary change.
There are several ways an allele can remain in the population without going extinct or undergoing fixation.
As for the God question... the chances are that no god exists. The theological response would be that the struggles associated with autism are a result of Adam and Eve's sin corrupting the world. As Adam and Eve also didn't exist, this has to be interpreted slightly more metaphorically if it is to make any sense - essentially, the bad things that humans do to each other cause our suffering.
Of course, this doesn't explain why God made humans do bad things, but if you want to live a religious life (which it seems you don't) then you have to accept never receiving satisfactory answers to some of your questions.
Or you could answer the question without the same predictable cynicism we all expect. Yes, we understand that you don't believe in god. That doesn't justify saying "well you won't get satisfactory answers anyways because god doesn't exist and religious explanations don't make sense". Do you see us doing the same to those in your position here? Saying the subject of the thread is a moot point is really a non-response. Why share it?
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I once asked my Christian stepfather why God created homosexuals if he hated them (despite claiming to be all-loving). Apparently he didn't create them; the devil did (which is a pretty horrendous thing to say). I don't know why God didn't just snap the devil out of existence a long time ago; if I were omnicient and omnipitent, I would have.
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I once asked my Christian stepfather why God created homosexuals if he hated them (despite claiming to be all-loving). Apparently he didn't create them; the devil did (which is a pretty horrendous thing to say). I don't know why God didn't just snap the devil out of existence a long time ago; if I were omnicient and omnipitent, I would have.
So many other Christian groups sound bizarre to me when they talk like that. It's like they conveniently forget that in the OT god says that a number of different sins are abominable. Not to mention that abomination is merely a synonym for sin that is conjuring up a different literal image, but it is basically the same. Also when we stop cherry picking lo and behold we notice in James that every offense against the law is an offense against the whole law, rendering the idea of cardinal and venial sins and any similar idea absolutely bunk. So the scriptures are pretty clear that these self righteous people aren't any better than the people they judge.
But of course Christians learn all kinds of extra stuff about their other interests, yet they can't learn the basics beyond just reading an English translation that they like over and over. Probably what frustrates me the most is that although it can be maddening how uncritical people are when they deride Christians with countless straw men, it's our fault because so many of us can't get our s**t together. We had it coming.
Probably the funniest thing of all is that they can't even take stock of basic facts that they should already know from their favorite little passages to parrot. They want to throw homosexuals out of church because they are disgusted by them, yet Jesus chose a tax collector (basically a legal thief), a prostitute, a skeptic, two terrorists (the zealot brothers), an assassin (Judas Iscariot was an assassin for the Zealots), a coward who would deny Him three times, and last of all Paul, who went around stoning Christians all over Judea. So they question is: do they even know Jesus?
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I asked God this very question last week in light of a lot of struggles my ASD has caused in my life and is now causing in the lives of my wife and children (by virtue of being my family, for one, and by having it themselves, in the case of two of my kids). I happen to have a very high IQ in addition to moderate ASD, so not only do I see things quite differently I think about them in a different way and ask questions most people don't seem to understand. He answered me with this quote, which I really like:
"We are relieved of the burden of seeing what others see, so that we may see the things they do not."
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Things like Autism, or even ADHD or Bipolar are made out of genetic mutation. What I don't understand is, why is this done?
Why create a person with a genetic makeup that is going to make them struggle in the world?
Why is there sadness, evil, misogyny, misandry in the world.. why is there negative feelings of any sort in the world? If there is an all loving god, why doesn't he create humans to feel no pain, live forever, never be unhappy or otherwise feel any discomfort of any nature?
I suppose I can't speak for god, since, last I checked anyways I am not him (or her.. or it..) but I suppose my overly religious parents would tell you that god works in mysterious ways, and he has a plan for us all. Sure wish I knew what it was, autism sure is confusing.
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If Jesus died for my sins, then I should sin as much as possible, so he didn't die for nothing.
Even though I'm an atheist, I find this topic quite interesting.
I don't think there's a "reason" for autism, it's just something that can occur. Since it CAN occur, it does occur.
I personally think the idea that the reason there are bad things in the world is because we're inherently bad and automatically deserve hell is disgusting. I think religions exploit fear of bad things happening on earth (including the threat of eternal torture in hell) to say it's because you're bad and the only way to be good is through us (churches). The best way I've heard it is the carrot and the stick analogy. The carrot is heaven, the stick is hell, and the churches use these to keep the congregation loyal to the church.
*mini rant over*
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