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06 Feb 2015, 10:51 am

3/4th of people with Aspergers were not in a relationship in high school. Probably not too far off. Most of us are nerdy and socially awkward especially around women, or we don't have the personal hygiene to impress woman during this time in a time where girls are judging on how you dress. High School wasn't a good time for many of us.

We're also more likely to have never kissed a girl, be a virgin at an older age and have our first girlfriend in our 20s. Probably not too far off either.

Face it, having Aspergers certainly doesn't help you dating-wise. But it doesn't mean you're screwed and destined to be alone forever.



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06 Feb 2015, 10:55 am

I don't believe Asperger's preclude anyone from being ultimately relatively happy.

I'm an Aspergian with an early "classic autism" history. I had a relationship in high school (though she committed suicide years later, when she was 35 and I was 37).

I accomplished many basic things. I graduated college late. I got my license late.

One just has to constantly evolve. Even if it takes years.



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06 Feb 2015, 11:03 am

In a study done by Toronto’s Redpath Centre, just 32.1 percent of people with autism had had a partner and only 9 percent were married. This contrasts with the statistics of the general population where about 50 percent of adults are married.


Of course this study most likely included those with lower forms of Autism as well. 32.1 percent doesn't seem far off for those with HFA say for those who are between 18-21. I think for many people with HFA, they will have their first relationship later in life. Like in their mid 20s or later.

Only 9% of people with HFA were married? I don't believe that. If you take into account all forms of autism, then yes 9% seems right.



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06 Feb 2015, 11:11 am

Just take a sample of the people right here on this Site.

You'll find lots of married people. You'll find lots of people in relationships. The majority of people here are actually Spectrumites.

Anecdote is something which must be employed along with research studies.

Research studies are not the panacea we think they are.



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28 Jul 2015, 5:55 pm

At the prompting of one of my therapists, I went out and found Asperger's sexual statistics for him, at least from 2 rather small studies. Here is what I found-

From "Love, Sex and Long Term Relationships: What People with Asperger's Syndrome Really Really Want" by Sarah Hendricks published in 2005.
Sample was 36 males all with Aspergers, 4 females with Aspergers, and 35 NT females married to Asperger's guys. I am only reporting the male data.

Median age of first sexual experience=20
50% had their first sexual experience between ages 18-26
40% had their first sexual experience after age 26

50% had 0-2 sex partners in their lifetime
40% had 5 or more partners
less than 15% had 10 or more, and all of these had problems with alcohol.

From "Aspergers Syndrome and Sexuality" by Isabelle Henault, published in 2005.
Sample was 28, 19 males and 9 females, mean age 34 years old.

Mean age of first intercourse was 22. 11 in the sample were still virgins.

They did several different scales measuring different traits and experiences. The mean male score on the sexual experience scale was 34. The mean for NTs is 50.

The mean male score on the body image scale was 32. The mean female score on the body image scale was 37. The NT score is 50. This is one of the few populations where males probably have a lower body image satisfaction than females. Maybe because the females had had more sexual experiences than the males?



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28 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm

darkphantomx1 wrote:
3/4th of people with Aspergers were not in a relationship in high school. Probably not too far off. Most of us are nerdy and socially awkward especially around women, or we don't have the personal hygiene to impress woman during this time in a time where girls are judging on how you dress. High School wasn't a good time for many of us.

That statistic seems completely implausible to me - that would make autistic people much more romantically successful in high school than the wider population. I think 5% of people at most have a steady romantic relationship in the last two years of school.



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28 Jul 2015, 8:16 pm

Based on what I saw in my high school, I think at least 25% of people had a relationship at some time while they were in high school, many did in junior high.



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28 Jul 2015, 8:38 pm

ProfessorJohn wrote:
Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.


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28 Jul 2015, 8:50 pm

ProfessorJohn wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think of myself as "below average"--but here goes.

First "making out": 14
First "real" girlfriend": 16
Lost virginity: 17
Age at marriage: 34
Sexual partners before marriage: about 30
One-night stands: Maybe about 20

None of this indicates the "quality" of the person I am. It indicates I was a bit desperate LOL


That seems to put you above average in several categories. Heck, I would be thrilled to know that that many people found me attractive. I wasn't very selective, but I guess the girls weren't just desperate enough for me!


Why do guys think quantity is so important? It just make a guy less attractive to me if they have been with a lot of women.


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28 Jul 2015, 8:57 pm

LOL....you noticed that I said I was "desperate," right?



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29 Jul 2015, 2:39 am

nurseangela wrote:
Why do guys think quantity is so important? It just make a guy less attractive to me if they have been with a lot of women.


Personally I won't like if my possible gf or wife would have more partners than me. It makes her less attractive :-)
However I had only two in 27 so if I'd try to actually find gf it would be hard.

And closer to topic - I believe it heavily depends on country when do people start sexual relations, how many partners they have and so on. In Russia majority has first sex somewhere between 14-15, I knew several girls who lost virginity in 12 with schoolmates. Then goes marriage in 18-20, divorce in 3-5 years (three main reasons - lack of money, alcohol, adultery) and next marriage in late 20's. Of course not everybody is in this pattern but such situation is very common.



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29 Jul 2015, 8:36 am

nurseangela wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.

Agree. 8 relationships before the age of 30 seems far fetched (even if that does include the one they marry), as is the notion that people will only sleep with 4 of those 8.

Average age of first sexual experience is above 16, at least in the UK.

I think a lot of numbers will have been made up. Don't put much faith in something that isn't from credible researchers.



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29 Jul 2015, 11:07 am

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Why do guys think quantity is so important? It just make a guy less attractive to me if they have been with a lot of women.


There are probably several reasons. Men tend to be competitive with each other. Showing that you have had more sexual encounters is one way to "one up" the competition. Also, it is a way to prove to yourself (and others) that you have sex appeal, women find you attractive, etc. Probably helps with low esteem-at least in the short term. You know that someone found you desirable, if only for 1 night.

Evolutionary Psychology has its own explanation, but I don't believe in Evolutionary Psychology, so I won't go there.



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29 Jul 2015, 11:09 am

nurseangela wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
Didn't have a lot of time to look, but a quick internet search turned up the following NT norms for males:

Age at marriage - 29.8
Number of relationships before marriage - 8
Number of sexual partners before marriage - 10
Number of one night stands - 6
Average age of first sexual experience - 16


I don't agree. I saw where most "people" have 5-7 sex partners before marriage - and that would be including men.


Here are 2 links to articles that cite reputable sources for data that supports these figures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... rents-did/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/love-sex/397 ... rs-average



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29 Jul 2015, 11:43 am

ProfessorJohn wrote:
nurseangela wrote:

Why do guys think quantity is so important? It just make a guy less attractive to me if they have been with a lot of women.


There are probably several reasons. Men tend to be competitive with each other. Showing that you have had more sexual encounters is one way to "one up" the competition. Also, it is a way to prove to yourself (and others) that you have sex appeal, women find you attractive, etc. Probably helps with low esteem-at least in the short term. You know that someone found you desirable, if only for 1 night.

Evolutionary Psychology has its own explanation, but I don't believe in Evolutionary Psychology, so I won't go there.


Question. What do men think about a woman who has had a lot of conquests?


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29 Jul 2015, 11:48 am

Depends on the woman