do you ever feel bad calling others "stupid" or "idiots" ?

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08 Feb 2015, 12:49 pm

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a lot of people in my life tell me i am intelligent and smart, i do not see this at all. i feel dumb but anyways, i sometimes find myself calling people dumb or idiots or stupid in my head and i feel really bad because its not really true that they are stupid, they are just different and do things in ways that i dont agree with that are most likely contrived or impure and revolved around the thoughts of what others will think of them and what will make them liked.... i have a lot of empathy for other people maybe too much

"Do I ever feel bad calling others stupid or idiots?" No. And this is why; Because most people really are stupid and idiotic. No matter how you slice it, people do stupid things, and they have idiotic ideas to excuse their behavior, and society, being full of stupid and idiotic people, buy into that bullsh*t. In fact, if society scrutinized idiotic behavior more often, people wouldn't do idiotic things, at least, not people who want to preserve their image in society. It's one thing to be tolerant and empathetic, it's another thing to have a very low standard for human behavior and common sense (which is enhanced under the guise of tolerance, empathy, and acceptance).
This modern idea that we should coddle and baby people is f'ing ridiculous, and it's only served to make society worse.
I call it like it is, and if someone's being stupid or an idiot, I tell them that. The truth hurts, and most people crumble under it, but that's life, and that's reality.


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08 Feb 2015, 2:37 pm

Stupid is not being slow at something or making mistakes or being ignorant about something.

Stupid is when someone repeats a mistake again and again without putting any actions in place to try and prevent it. Unless they have a special learning difficulty I think you are quite right to call their behaviour stupid, if not neceissarily them as a whole. However if they do this a lot I think it is fair to call them a generally stupid person.

What is that definition of stupidity... something like "Stupidity is repeating the same process and expecting a different outcome".

Mistakes are vital to learn but stupid people dont learn by their mistakes.

Anf yes there are idiots out there, people who park their car in a thoughtless way blocking others off. They just have not connected that they are being selfish... these folk are idiots.

We all do these things at some times but hopefuilly the more self aware learn from their mistakes, stupid idiots don`t.
I dont feel bad about calling people this , I just have to be careful as i a a teacher and must focus on the behaviour not the person as well as find a more gentle way to get them to realise their stupidity. A large number of my students are repeatedly stupid, they do this by not engaging their brains and then asking for help before they have done any thinking, This learned helplessness is rife at my school. The kids are lovely but many are unable to think for themselves and therefore i suppose are stupid..... hopefully they will learn to be more independent. and less stupid.



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08 Feb 2015, 3:17 pm

I am being called smart, but I feel stupid much of the time. Sometimes I take the liberty of thinking "stupid" about others, but I am no expert and I have been wrong about people.
Sometimes I have to remind myself, that if I point at someone, three fingers point back at me myself.


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08 Feb 2015, 4:23 pm

Peejay wrote:
Stupid is when someone repeats a mistake again and again without putting any actions in place to try and prevent it. Unless they have a special learning difficulty I think you are quite right to call their behaviour stupid, if not necessarily them as a whole. However if they do this a lot I think it is fair to call them a generally stupid person.

I too would feel that such a person was stupid, it's really annoying to witness it, but if a person just doesn't seem able to learn something that most people would find almost impossible to get wrong, I'd say that they must have some kind of a special learning difficulty, by definition. The only exception would be wilful inattention - I'm sure some folks just act dumb to avoid being openly unco-operative. Spoils everything because it's hard to tell if it's that, so if time is short, we often tar everybody (without a suitable diagnosis) with the same brush.

Calling somebody stupid is giving them a verbal slap, a pejorative. I think that's best reserved for people who are deliberately being awkward, if that can be determined. Saying it inappropriately is silly and futile IMO.



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08 Feb 2015, 6:09 pm

Peejay wrote:
Stupid is when someone repeats a mistake again and again without putting any actions in place to try and prevent it.


I could not help but think of the U.S. elections system when I read this.


Seven Of Nine would not call someone stupid. She would point out to them that their logic is flawed.



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08 Feb 2015, 6:29 pm

I don't.

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08 Feb 2015, 7:27 pm

aspiesavant wrote:
I don't.

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08 Feb 2015, 8:52 pm

"These are affirmative idiot recognition data..." :lol:
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08 Feb 2015, 9:42 pm

No

Everywhere should allow it. Not being able to call stupid people stupid is an affront to people that know what they're talking about.

But "muh feelings". Yeah, you're stupid.



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08 Feb 2015, 11:16 pm

In their ignorance, I'm very tempted to call them that. But in their stupidity, I end up laughing and face palming instead. And ditching either of the two, so I wouldn't have to deal with them any further.

This is why I'm bad at collaborations. :lol:

The compliments of intelligence... Is annoying.


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09 Feb 2015, 6:38 am

I don't feel bad about calling others stupid in my mind, but I sometimes feel bad about saying it out loud. It's just unnecessary - it rarely leads to anything good.

Recently I was at a museum with someone and people were crowding like crazy to take photos of a very famous artwork. They were getting in the way of people like me, who were just trying to get a good look at it. This struck me as really stupid, because you can easily find many photos of this particular artwork online and they're bound to be better than your mobile phone photos! The whole point of being there is to look at the real thing! Unfortunately, being tired and frustrated and already somewhat overwhelmed by the environment, I couldn't resist saying this the person I was with. I mean, I really put a fine point on it, like "is it just me or this totally dumb? I mean, look at them, just sheep... f*****g sheep!" It slipped my mind that he had also taken some photos and when he said "... me included" there was really no going back, so I just said "yep... you included". Luckily, he took it OK and we moved on, but I still felt stupid for saying it. Not that I think what I said was wrong, just that saying it was counter-productive.

I find that getting along with people is largely about checking myself when I'm about to say such things. Then people wonder why I never seem to have anything to say. :( It's been said many times on WP, but the advice to "just be yourself" really doesn't apply to aspies!


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09 Feb 2015, 8:34 am

I don't usually call people stupid but I do laugh at them when they do something stupid. Laughing is better than getting angry but sometimes they ask me what i'm laughing about which can be awkward if they are sensitive and dignified.

I laugh at myself too when I do or say something stupid.



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09 Feb 2015, 12:24 pm

I've never felt the need to think of others as idiots. I feel like I'm a stupid idiot, not other people. I've always felt others were cleverer than me, while it takes a while for things to sink in with me, and new information leaks out of my memory.


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