27 Apr 2015, 9:04 am
27 Apr 2015, 11:15 am
ylevental wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
Agemaki wrote:
I was undiagnosed most of my life got by without accommodations. I had no developmental delays as a child and I generally excelled at school. I suppose one could argue that the fact that my disability was not recognized suggests that I was "mild." Certainly by the normalcy standards of public education you were "normal" enough to not require attention if you could talk and write your name. Is everyone who is diagnosed as an adult "mild" by virtue of the fact that they escaped diagnosis in their early years?
I was diagnosed when I was 8, which I don't understand, because I am very mild. I developed typically as a baby and showed no signs to cause concern to my parents. I feel that being diagnosed at 8 is way too early for someone like me. And I'm female too. Usually females go unnoticed.
Opposite situation for me. I cried very little as a baby, I showed all the signs of autism as a toddler (e.g. stacking, collecting, lack of imaginary play and interaction with other kids etc) other than speech delay and yet I'm only just getting diagnosed. My parents never flagged it up because they saw it as a "personality".
Also my mum has a distorted view; the only high functioning people with autism she knows are at her work - in science, very smart, very high functioning people. Those people right at the edge of the autistic spectrum are what she believes I have. She seems to see it as something you "grow out of". I'm undergoing a process now that should have happened 15 years ago, and as such I haven't had early intervention needed and my life is pretty screwed at the moment. 
The people at CAHMS can't understand why not only did my parents never flag this up, but the school never did either. Being a girl sucks.Same with me, though I don't see what gender has to do with it, as I'm a guy. In high school, my teachers shared this disorted view and scolded me a lot for being lazy. I did too and blamed myself a lot : (
By the gender it's just picked up less in girls because we're (mostly, before someone says they weren't) incredibly shy to the point we're partially verbal. So the not making friends, no eye contact etc is associated with shyness and the other features such as how capable we are at talking and our voice are hidden again by shyness. Avoiding noisy places shows as avoiding people. It masks autism in girls because it looks different and people will be less aware of the symptoms. "She's just shy" is so damn common, every report from school notes it.
That's what I meant, sorry for not clarifying.
27 Apr 2015, 1:11 pm
27 Apr 2015, 1:16 pm
ylevental wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
By the gender it's just picked up less in girls because we're (mostly, before someone says they weren't) incredibly shy to the point we're partially verbal. So the not making friends, no eye contact etc is associated with shyness and the other features such as how capable we are at talking and our voice are hidden again by shyness. Avoiding noisy places shows as avoiding people. It masks autism in girls because it looks different and people will be less aware of the symptoms. "She's just shy" is so damn common, every report from school notes it.
That's what I meant, sorry for not clarifying.
That's what I meant, sorry for not clarifying.
I think sexism goes both ways, but differently. Because I'm a guy, I was expected to be more capable at succeeding in STEM fields, and therefore I suffered under the stereotype more.
No, this isn't sexism. Oh god hell no please.
No no no no I was not saying this was sexism. No. Males experience sexism I don't please say nobody else took it that way. S***.
27 Apr 2015, 1:30 pm
iliketrees wrote:
ylevental wrote:
iliketrees wrote:
By the gender it's just picked up less in girls because we're (mostly, before someone says they weren't) incredibly shy to the point we're partially verbal. So the not making friends, no eye contact etc is associated with shyness and the other features such as how capable we are at talking and our voice are hidden again by shyness. Avoiding noisy places shows as avoiding people. It masks autism in girls because it looks different and people will be less aware of the symptoms. "She's just shy" is so damn common, every report from school notes it.
That's what I meant, sorry for not clarifying.
That's what I meant, sorry for not clarifying.
I think sexism goes both ways, but differently. Because I'm a guy, I was expected to be more capable at succeeding in STEM fields, and therefore I suffered under the stereotype more.
No, this isn't sexism. Oh god hell no please.
No no no no I was not saying this was sexism. No. Males experience sexism I don't please say nobody else took it that way. S***.
Don't think I made it too clear what I was saying, I just freaked out.
Being evaluated late for autism as a female isn't sexism. I wasn't calling the other guy a liar.
Dammit I'm stupid. Sorry for not being clear, again.
27 Apr 2015, 6:02 pm
27 Apr 2015, 6:28 pm
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28 Apr 2015, 3:00 pm
29 Apr 2015, 2:29 am
Aristophanes wrote:
Aurelia_aurita wrote:
Depends on what you mean by "autistic".
If you're the type of person who thinks of it as "just a different way of thinking" and/or "misunderstood", you're probably too much of a tool to answer this question truthfully. Same goes for the type of people who think having aspergers makes them genius savants ("Einstein was an aspie therefore I am Einstein!")
And even if you weren't trying to frame it that way, this question is pretty pointless. I mean nobody with actual severe autism would even be able to answer this question, why bother? (also anyone who voted on the "severe" option is a complete tool)
If you're the type of person who thinks of it as "just a different way of thinking" and/or "misunderstood", you're probably too much of a tool to answer this question truthfully. Same goes for the type of people who think having aspergers makes them genius savants ("Einstein was an aspie therefore I am Einstein!")
And even if you weren't trying to frame it that way, this question is pretty pointless. I mean nobody with actual severe autism would even be able to answer this question, why bother? (also anyone who voted on the "severe" option is a complete tool)
So many ignorant statements in so few sentences, it boggles my mind. I'm half tempted to believe you're just a troll. If not, and that's a legitimate statement, then chew on some facts because they'll cure your ignorance:
The brain of an autistic is literally wired differently, so yes it is a "different way of thinking" at it's very core. There are "classic" ("severe" in this thread) autistics on these boards, so yes, they can answer should they so choose. Just because classics don't speak doesn't mean they can't communicate, some can type and write even if they can't say words. Finally, read a few posts here-- you'll find a lot of autistics have such low self-esteem that they wouldn't consider comparing themselves to Einstein even in their wildest dreams.
I think you misunderstood what he said. He did not suggest the entire site sees autism that way, just the ones who do wouldn't be able to answer this truthfully.
And it bothers me more than I've admitted before. How people with incredibly mild Asperger's who therefore face no difficulties try to suggest autism isn't a disorder, but a gift.
This kind of thinking has infected my parents who see it as something you "get over" as so many ignorant aspies suggest because it happened to them and therefore will happen to everyone. I mean there's being positive about yourself and there's just that.
29 Apr 2015, 3:27 am
29 Apr 2015, 3:38 am
29 Apr 2015, 3:56 am
I am 100% autistic.
iliketrees wrote:
I think you misunderstood what he said. He did not suggest the entire site sees autism that way, just the ones who do wouldn't be able to answer this truthfully.
And it bothers me more than I've admitted before. How people with incredibly mild Asperger's who therefore face no difficulties try to suggest autism isn't a disorder, but a gift.
This kind of thinking has infected my parents who see it as something you "get over" as so many ignorant aspies suggest because it happened to them and therefore will happen to everyone. I mean there's being positive about yourself and there's just that. If you face no difficulties then you won't be diagnosed, it's as simple as that.
I also don't think the view of autism as a gift is by any means confined to people with "mild" autism.
But yes, the view that autism is a childhood disorder that you "get over" is extremely annoying. It's lifelong, with no cure.
29 Apr 2015, 4:30 am
The_Walrus wrote:
I am 100% autistic.
I think you misunderstood what he said. He did not suggest the entire site sees autism that way, just the ones who do wouldn't be able to answer this truthfully.
And it bothers me more than I've admitted before. How people with incredibly mild Asperger's who therefore face no difficulties try to suggest autism isn't a disorder, but a gift. This kind of thinking has infected my parents who see it as something you "get over" as so many ignorant aspies suggest because it happened to them and therefore will happen to everyone. I mean there's being positive about yourself and there's just that.
If you face no difficulties then you won't be diagnosed, it's as simple as that.
I also don't think the view of autism as a gift is by any means confined to people with "mild" autism.
But yes, the view that autism is a childhood disorder that you "get over" is extremely annoying. It's lifelong, with no cure.
iliketrees wrote:
I think you misunderstood what he said. He did not suggest the entire site sees autism that way, just the ones who do wouldn't be able to answer this truthfully.
And it bothers me more than I've admitted before. How people with incredibly mild Asperger's who therefore face no difficulties try to suggest autism isn't a disorder, but a gift.
This kind of thinking has infected my parents who see it as something you "get over" as so many ignorant aspies suggest because it happened to them and therefore will happen to everyone. I mean there's being positive about yourself and there's just that. If you face no difficulties then you won't be diagnosed, it's as simple as that.
I also don't think the view of autism as a gift is by any means confined to people with "mild" autism.
But yes, the view that autism is a childhood disorder that you "get over" is extremely annoying. It's lifelong, with no cure.
But if they fitted the diagnostic criteria in the past they still have their diagnosis as an adult even though if they were to be assessed now they wouldn't fit the criteria. It's not continuously assessed therefore people don't lose a diagnosis. This means there are people who face no difficulties at all with a diagnosis of autism which therefore qualifies them to talk about it as to represent everyone, since they're the best at speaking and therefore most likely to speak about it.
I haven't seen anyone with severe autism or has a child with severe autism call it a gift, put it that way.
29 Apr 2015, 9:46 am
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