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30 Mar 2007, 10:40 pm

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30 Mar 2007, 10:42 pm

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Stimming?

self stimulation... like flapping your arms or rocking or something like that

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30 Mar 2007, 10:56 pm

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Is stimming really related to AS or autism? or could be anything else?

Are you asking "which one is it related to? AS or Autism?" I think it is related to both. Remember, ASD is a spectrum involving many different behaviors. Generally, AS is a the more "mild" form, while full blown "autism" is a lesser form. At least, that is how the medical community sees it. In talking to many adults here, who actually HAVE High functioning Autism or AS, many feel that there really should be no distinction, and it has been proven many times, that as life progresses, a person with an ASD can flip flop along the spectrum. I stim, my son stims, we are both Aspies. I know a boy down the street, full blown Low Functioning Autism, he Stims too. Of course, my son and I tend to stim with some rocking or repetitive movements, however we do higher functioning things over and over again too, like typing for the sake of typing, playing video games in an OCD manner, or reading / internet flipping, listening to the same song over and over.

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I believe I might be the only one here who has this particular stimming problem and I have it for all my life since I can remember

I have to do leg swinging when I am in bed when ready to sleep, I can't sleep without doing it. I only can sleep on my sides, when I am in my left side I swing my right leg, when I am in my right side I swing my left leg. if I don't do it I feel like my foot is going to freeze or paralized. I also get the sensation of falling if I don't do it.

Sounds very crazy and very strange I know, I never tried to understand why was that, until lately that I am relating it to AS, but it could be something else. No one knows about this, is very embarassing if someone I know finds out

Previous posts don't give this kind of stimming I think, does anyone has something similar or am I the only one?

I don't think it is at all crazy or strange, it makes logical sense to me, and sounds exactly like "stimming".

1.) It is a repetitive movement. (I used to do something similar if I was reading laying down).

2.) You do it to help fall asleep. Some people rock to sleep, you just rock your leg. Many ASD's have a hard time falling asleep, it is like they just can't turn off their minds and it keeps them awake. The leg movement takes your mind off other thoughts, eventually all you think of is the leg, and the back and forth of it, eventually, that soothes you to sleep.

3.) All the other details, like being on your side, has to be the leg, is indicative of a "routine" and sounds almost "ocd". Most Autistics develop routines or rituals, and many have OCD tendencies or behaivors, however they may not fit the classic definition of "OCD".

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30 Mar 2007, 11:44 pm

Raph522 wrote:

self stimulation... like flapping your arms or rocking or something like that

I don't do that. But I do flap my hands when I'm over excited.

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31 Mar 2007, 12:02 am

RedMage wrote:

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self stimulation... like flapping your arms or rocking or something like that

I don't do that. But I do flap my hands when I'm over excited.

I really think it should be broadened to include not just "movements" but anything that is done repetitively. I used to call it "looping" with my son. Not really a tic, just a sequence that he had to do over and over again. Liike OCD ... But also not... Like a tic ... but not.

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31 Mar 2007, 2:11 am

I still don't actually understand what it is.

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31 Mar 2007, 3:10 am

Flapping your hands definitely qualifies. Some other less obvious things though seem more questionable. For example, I'm busily rubbing my feet together right now. I guess I kind of figure that people are squirming most of the time - maybe not the case with NASs though - I don't know.

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31 Mar 2007, 3:11 am

Ahh, thanks calandale. I only flap my hands when I'm excited, which isn't often.

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31 Mar 2007, 3:14 am

I used to when very young, then it changed into something linked to my visual imagination. My wife always flapped her hands when excited/disturbed by stuff.

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31 Mar 2007, 3:48 am

EarthCalling wrote:

ASD is a spectrum involving many different behaviors. Generally, AS is a the more "mild" form, while full blown "autism" is a lesser form. At least, that is how the medical community sees it. In talking to many adults here, who actually HAVE High functioning Autism or AS, many feel that there really should be no distinction

... All the other details, like being on your side, has to be the leg, is indicative of a "routine" and sounds almost "ocd". Most Autistics develop routines or rituals, and many have OCD tendencies or behaivors, however they may not fit the classic definition of "OCD".

I know AS is part of the autism spectrum, I just wanted to separate AS from the other types of autism, although I sounded like I was making distinctions :oops:

Sorry for that

My memory of having this stimming goes from being 5 years old until the present (25 years), probably started when I was younger, as I don't have much knowledge about OCD I am not sure if this would fit to classic OCD, because of the lasting time, it seems more likely to be one more characteristic to add to my selfdiagnostic of being an Aspie.

Is the only "routine" I have, I had others stimming but they seemed normal and temporary.

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31 Mar 2007, 4:11 am

Ever since I can remember, I have always loved motion - car rides, amusement park rides, flying, sitting in rocking chairs. When I was a kid, I used to rock and/or bounce in my seat, but as an adult, I settle for bouncing my legs.

I used to wave my fingers in front of my closed eyes because I liked seeing the shifting lights and shadows through my eyelids.

I used to chew my hair. Now I just twirl it or run my fingers through it.

I chew my lips constantly. Often to the point where my entire jaw will actually begin to hurt.

I do several hours' worth of cross-stitch nearly every evening. I consider this a stim because I enjoy the steady, even, repetative motion, and I like the feel of the thread pulling through the fabric. I stopped doing it for several months recently and couldn't figure out why I was feeling so restless and antsy.

I know there are others but I can't think of them right now. It's past my bedtime. Zzzz....

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31 Mar 2007, 4:14 am

greenblue wrote:

Is stimming really related to AS or autism? or could be anything else?

I believe I might be the only one here who has this particular stimming problem and I have it for all my life since I can remember

I have to do leg swinging when I am in bed when ready to sleep, I can't sleep without doing it. I only can sleep on my sides, when I am in my left side I swing my right leg, when I am in my right side I swing my left leg. if I don't do it I feel like my foot is going to freeze or paralized. I also get the sensation of falling if I don't do it.

Sounds very crazy and very strange I know, I never tried to understand why was that, until lately that I am relating it to AS, but it could be something else. No one knows about this, is very embarassing if someone I know finds out

Previous posts don't give this kind of stimming I think, does anyone has something similar or am I the only one?

This could be Restless Legs Syndrome:

http://www.rls.org/NetCommunity/Page.as ... &srcid=178

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31 Mar 2007, 4:33 am

Erilyn wrote:

greenblue wrote:

This could be Restless Legs Syndrome:

http://www.rls.org/NetCommunity/Page.as ... &srcid=178

Yeah, that sounds a lot like RLS to me. I have it too, sometimes. It's like a terrible itching or an ansolutely uncontrollable urge- a NEED- to kick and run and move my legs as much as possible. It seems that no one really knows what causes it, but there are lots of theories out there. I've tried a couple of things to control it, but nothing seems to have worked. It only crops up every once in a while for me though. It's worse- and more likely to happen- if I drink any alcohol before bed.

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31 Mar 2007, 6:38 am

I flapped my hands just then so they don't go numb. :lol:

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31 Mar 2007, 9:34 am

Is it possible to stim when you aren't aware you're doing it? In particular, I'm thinking of when I repeat some/all (Dunno) of my sentences after I'm done talking, but there's no vocal cord involvement that I can hear. People told me when I was younger, with the 'did you know...?' quite a few times which is how I found out about it. I've caught myself at it once or twice, within the last year or so. And if I may be so bold, does anyone know how to break the habit? It can't good for job interviews and I'm trying to improve my chances of getting work.

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31 Mar 2007, 10:34 am

LemonDemon wrote:

That's echolalia (very common on the Spectrum), not a stim as such.

But yes in my experience some stims are unconscious.

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