Do aspies bash NTs because of jealousy/even hatred?

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I generally try to avoid undue NT bashing. I don't hate NTs. In fact, I think NT is too diverse a group for such a generalization. NTs have some traits that I wish came as naturally to me as it does to them, so there may be an aspect of jealousy in that regard. But on the reverse, I have several traits that are often regarded almost with awe by other people, traits that seem to be very intertwined with aspie-dom. So I don't think my situational jealousy amounts to a wish to be NT.

That being said, 90% of people being NT naturally leads greater society to be geared towards NT behaviour and sensibilities. What constitutes a pleasant atmosphere in ones immediate enviroment with regards to lights, noises and smells is measured by NT standards. What constitutes an "interesting" topic for discussion is measured by NT standards. What is an isn't a "word that normal people use" is, again, measured by NT standards. This isn't strange. It's, strictly speaking, not even wrong. In defiance of stereotype, I'm not inflexible, but certain things present more than reasonable levels of challenge, and I kindly request to be accomodated to great and fearful cost of no one.
As for people, I try my best to simply rub off on them. Some say aspiedom is contagious. I hope it is...

I think it probably has more to do with the same bad experiences happening again and again instead of just doing it out of hatred. It doesn't make it right though.

I don't hate individual NTs. I hate groups of NTs, viscerally. Like, I look at a random group of people that seem to be having a good time together, and it immediately triggers a primal hate response. But that's just emotion, and it doesn't rule me.

I don't want membership in their social groups. They are they way they are, and I am likewise. I just wish there were more autistic people around, to be with. Mostly it would just be nice to have company, even if we weren't interacting most of the time. Another person in the room, in their own little world... most of the time.

And to interact with, closely, at other times...

Bashing is the wrong approach, and sorry to see spiteful Aspies lashing out. Importantly, the term 'neurotypical' (NT) is not at all a value judgment; in fact, the contrary. Even in research literature, 'neurotypical' simply refers to one who is not on the autistic spectrum, constituting most of the populace, of course.

Anyhow, I do understand why. Aspies (aka, the Lab Pet ) are prone to bullying and no-one appreciates being marginalized by the majority who can be more socially sophisticated than us. That is, while neurotypicals can and do have many great qualities, they also can be socially manipulative and domineering. Of course that's hurtful to us.

But bitterness cannot solve any problem. I believe that acknowledging our differences is OK, and qualifying terms such as NT and Asperger's (Aspies) are certainly appropriate. No sense in pretending such differences do not exist - that's like ignoring the elephant in the room. Instead, the focus is ideally shifted to listening, understanding and appreciating each other. Not in spite of our differences, but because of them.

As far as i am concerned i don't really care about NTs , but it is neither hatred nor jealousy. It is more the way they communicate and the superficial mediocrity they seem to have devoted themselves to. However, i don't know enough NTs to construct a proper opinion. Some of them are acceptable, if they're not in their small talk-mood, and others are as i described them in my second sentence. Or at least they seem like this.

The social hierarchy is a good thought, but i don't think i am entitled to an opinion on this matter. I don't fit their criteria for this NT hierarchy anyway, so why should i bother thinking about where i see myself in this odd construct?

I don't think we are so concerned about our place in a hierarchy as we are with wishing the hierarchy would just dissolve and vanish so that everyone can be respected the same.
We are concerned about how NTs treat us due to their obsession with hierarchal position, and other mind viruses.

I agree!

I don't perceive the term "NT" to be an impoverishment of any kind, but it is irrefutable that there is a distinction between the two.

No, you idiot.
Because NTs use us as target practice.

Similar to how parents let their young teens go out and beat up homeless people, then
plead ignorance when questioned about it. In the meantime the homeless person is either dead or in the hospital with many broken bones and will likely NEVER see justice, because like autistic people, neurotypicals don't give a flying rat's ass about the homeless either.

If they left us alone in peace (even in poverty) I'd have more sympathy for NTs,
but they don't.

So I don't.

Good day

I forgot to mention jealousy when I posted before.

I envy NTs to some extent, because they can do some things easily that I can't do - switch attention, cope with the average job apparently without great angst, ignore little background distractions, read body language intuitively, etc. - but it doesn't fill me with hate. I used to hate the mainstream when I was younger, before my diagnosis, but not out of envy, because their world looked so dystopian to me, I couldn't see how they could possibly be enjoying it (I'm still skeptical about the idea that they have much happiness compared to me). I hated them because they seemed to be spoiling what could have been a really good world. When I discovered a community of eccentrics, we got things together there much better than I'd ever known in the mainstream world. So I was somewhat vitreolic about the mainstream, though I don't remember taking it out on them, I just quietly shunned them where possible. And I picked up a lot of that "love and peace" thing from my hippie chums, which I learned to extend to all but the nastiest and most harmful and bigoted (in my view) mainstreamers.

I was guilty at both emotions, but then I was just an ignorant child back then.

At this present, I don't hate nor envy NTs. If anything, I'm rather annoyed by them but I could bear with them most at the time. I rather don't want to be like them either aside from trying to understand what's inside their head.

I believe it boils down in the culture. As NTs are diversified culturally(the social part) and individually(the obvious part).
If the culture itself has empathy towards autistics, you'll likely get positive experiences with NTs. Then it boils down to the individuals you meet, after all everyone IS different and not all are the same within that culture or group.


But yes, aspies do bash NTs as much as NTs bash aspies. The former is usually out of resentment, the latter is usually unconscious or simply cultural or both.

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