Is this why some people find us creepy?

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04 Sep 2015, 12:49 pm

Adamantium wrote:
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We really don't have a LACK of social skills. There are times, though, when our social skills are not on a par with "neurotypical" people.


That seems like a distinction without a difference. Lack is unquantified. It doesn't necessarily mean total lack.

If a bus ride costs $2.50 and I have $2.45 in my pocket, I lack sufficient funds for the fare, but that doesn't mean I have no money at all.


Good analogy. :)


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04 Sep 2015, 1:27 pm

You don't like my analogy? :cry:

Seriously, I don't believe people with autism ever lack social skills TOTALLY.

Now...it's settled! :D



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04 Sep 2015, 1:58 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You don't like my analogy? :cry:

Seriously, I don't believe people with autism ever lack social skills TOTALLY.

Now...it's settled! :D



I don't believe anyone on the autism spectrum literally has no social skills.

Look at an eight year and and three year old together. They both have social skills at the same level. People will say the three year old has them because they are at his developmental level. People will say the eight year old has none because they are not at his level. But technically he still has social skills because they are at the level of a three year old.

I do not believe any autistic person when they say they have no social skills. I am sure they don't mean it literally because the only ones out there who have no social skills literally is a fetus and a newborn unless you want to count crying as a social skill because that is their way of communicating so that would mean they do have social skills or otherwise they wouldn't be crying for attention when they have needs to be met. They would have to be a vegetable if they literally had no social skills.


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04 Sep 2015, 2:07 pm

There is something cultural too.
Some people have found me creepy, when they caught me hand-stimming, which I sometimes do unconciously, when I´m tense/nervous: Hand-wrenching and rubbing of fingertips.
These movements, I´ve been told, have unpleasant connotations in our culture.


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04 Sep 2015, 3:15 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think of "lack" in terms of absolutes.

You absolutely LACK the fare, though you don't LACK money.

To say that one LACKS social skills is an absolute to me.

It's awkward, to me, to say one lacks social skills slightly, though to say there is a slight lack in social skills is less awkward.

I think the linguistic distinction lies in the difference between "a lack", and "lack" minus an indefinite article.


Black and white thinking! :P

But seriously, I understand your interpretation.
But I also knew league_girl didn't mean it that way. Sometimes you have to meet people half-way in establishing meaning.

Somehow this reminds me of that point earlier in this thread where btbnnyr says "it's not the uncanny valley. It really works like this..." and then goes on to describe the basic mechanism of the uncanny valley.



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04 Sep 2015, 3:34 pm

It's just that the representation of a "lack" of anything sort of gets my goat.

I can't wait for the cool weather to come--The high temperature in NYC hasn't gone below 80 since early July.