Announcement: I am now a medical marijuana patient

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People that are determined to get an MM card often just blatantly lie. I suspect this may be the case with roughly half of the ones with prescriptions.

For example, they lie and claim to feel pain in their joints(especially knees) when the actually don't. And say they used some rec-weed recently and it went away, or something like that.

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Unfortunately I don't have one of Arizona's qualifying conditions at this time and they do not allow it be doctors recommendation. Hoping recreational gets passed in 2016, looking like it will indeed make the ballot. I'd say its 50/50 it passes.

Here is my take on it:

If it is to be legalized nationwide, then the amount of THC should be restricted to at or below 3% (the level that it occurs in nature for that plant). Current forms have it at or above 30% THC, which is too potent (ie. increases the likely-hood of damage). It is a harmful drug when used inappropriately (proven with NMRI studies on human brains). As a chemist, I simply cannot advise that chemicals should be abused in that manner.

Well said.

I wish that I was allowed to smoke.

Why? If they can have varying amounts of alcohol in liquors and spirits, why can't there be a strain with 13% THC and a little CBD to make it more enjoyable? I don't know where you got 30% TNC because that's HIGH! Average is around 15% but if someone wants a stronger strain, let them mess with their tolerance.

I mean you've got beer that's roughly 6-8# BAC whereas Everclear is what, 90-95% ethyl alcohol? Ninety to ninety-five percent pure ethyl alcohol. ...and 30% THC is bad for you. Strange, I've heard of cannabinoid receptors, ain't never heard of alcohol receptors.

Firstly, why should my, and many other people, getting high keep a plant illegal? It's my mind, if someone wants to say it's damaging, I say in return I dont care. Should that not be my right? I work, pay my bills and get by the best I know how.

And you went on to explain exactly why people should have open access to MJ- it's better than the alternatives. Xanax can be quite addictive. Alcohol can be even worse. Anxiety is a tough thing to deal with. Either you do something to address it, possibly making you less able to deal with the demands of life, or you go unmedicated and almost certainly not be able.

And if anyone decides it's not for them, then steer clear. I'm not one of those pot will cure the world people. I don't really give a damn what anyone else does. I just feel I should be able to do as I wish with my own body. Especially when it's making my life more livable, and at the end of the day that's all I care about- being able to go day to day without wanting to kill myself.

And if they eliminated it's federal classification as a drug, then it would likely not be included on many drug tests. Not to mention there are very reliable ways to beat them anyway. I have done so multiple times. Not to mention, drug tests are very deceptive for MJ because of how long THC takes to metabolize. It's especially bad if you are overweight because it stores in your fat cells. In some cases it can be in your system for 2 months. In your case, I could see the risk not being worth it. I've never had a job that I'd care too much if I lost. Don't think I ever would either. I work to live, not live to work. But that's just me. I don't impose my views on others and wish I could have the same courtesy.

Regarding it's specific benefits (not sure if you were addressing the OP or myself) but I will answer.

Firstly I am not offically diagnosed to be clear. Many tests and online quizzes seem to indicate I very well may be Aspergers. Any research Ive done seems to support that, though certain aspects are far more prevalent than others. Just to be clear. I find it helps me care. About anything. I have a severe apathy for almost everyone and everything, including myself. If I did not smoke, I would not care if I dropped dead tomorrow. When I do, I care about my well being, others and about the world around me in a much deeper way- which is still somewhat shallow compared to most.

Helps me enjoy things. I explain it as activating the part of my brain that gets joy. I cannot basically have fun doing anything because I get bored. Even things I'd normally be quite interested in. And before you say it- i was this way even as a young child. I did not like things most kids did. So it's not a self-perpetuating cycle.

It takes away my anxiety, both generalized and social anxiety. I just seem to get how to communicate with people much better when high. Probably because I care and Im in a good mood. But also I am often not able because I just dont know what to say and feel dumb talking out loud. And I can't care if people talk about themselves. High these things change.

The biggest benefit is outburst control. When I am smoking on a regular basis I am far less prone to unreasonable fits of anger. I get these often otherwise. This has almost caused a divorce for me. But things that make you a tiny but irritated will send my fist through a wall. And I will take many hours to deflate. I often fear in these fits I will have a heart attack or stroke. I have no ability to stop it. I can steer it it ensure I dont do anything too seriously bad, but I cant just lets things go- something's getting smashed for sure.

These are the most pressing ones for me personally. To sum it all up- relaxation. Impossible for me without.

It's only criminal because it's kept that way. And no, it's not for everyone at all. Some people don't like it.

Yep that was the guy on the show I saw. Lucky bastard. Canada seems so much better than the US. Just seems way more laid back in general. But I've only seen it on TV...

But why is it your business what it does to my brain or anyone else's? Just about every prescription drug damages something in your body or another, even OTC stuff. Some people enjoy not being sober. Some people actually really actively hate it. So who's business is it but mine? I couldn't care much less what my IQ is. All the IQ does no good if you have zero motivation, are uncomfortable in your own skin and constantly want to kill yourself.

If you feel it's that harmful, and not worth the damage, more power to you.

But if we're basing legality on harmfulness, that's a very slippery slope. Before you know it we will not be able to do anything. And relative to what's currently legal, it's negatives are far, far less.

Furthermore that article proves absolutely nothing. Barely any data is provided to be able to tell the statistical viability of the claims. I'm not one to just believe something because some university published findings.

But based off of the little that's there...

How could they even compare the brain scans of the "pot" group to the non pot group? Did they have previous brain scans from earlier in the subjects lives? Does this white matter grow in all people at the same rate? Im guessing not, as nothing really does.

Secondly, small sample size much? 59 compared to 33 non smokers. I'd hardly call 92 people enough to label something indisputable in the least.

If you personally are inclined to believe this then fine for you. If this is sufficient for you, then that's ok. But it isn't for me, so it should not be used as means to justify what I can and cannot do.

"No, don't smoke weed. Use chemicals instead" says the chemist.

Potency varies on strain. And I too have never heard of weed being 30% THC. And even if it were, so the hell what? Maybe I want to smoke myself into a daze and drool on myself for 4 hours watching TV. Whats that to you really?

Making it legal will restrict the usage for underage people. It's way harder for underage kids to buy tobacco or alcohol than weed. Easily. s**t, many of the people I've gotten weed from recently are underage (assuming 21) themselves.

Everclear is 98% pure alcohol.

Drink enough Robitussin you'll trip for hours (DXM)

Take enough OTC sleeping pills and, if you stay awake, you'll feel like you've taken a strong opiate.

There's so much stuff out there to get high from. But we want to restrict the one that grows naturally.

Well, hemlock grows naturally. Nightshade and foxglove grows naturally. Mercury occurs naturally so does cyanide. Appeal to nature; not the best argument.

My thing is I don't care if you use marijuana or not - you're a grown man, right? I don't want other Aspies to think that marijuana is a cure for their AS symptoms because then they may make a quick uninformed decision just from reading threads such as this one and then get themselves into some real trouble. (I'm talking about the younger more impressionable ones.) And when someone says they use it to get high, then to me it sounds like you really aren't using the drug to help your AS symptoms, it's being used as a recreational drug. I'm not just singling out marijuana either, I believe alcohol is just as bad and also any benzos as they are extremely addictive. If benzos are used, it should be only for a short duration of a couple weeks. I was actually one time put on depakote (a drug for seizures) and it was also used as a mood stabilizer. I was on it for about 2 yrs and it completely got rid of all my panic attacks entirely and I went without a panic attack for over 10 yrs - it's just lately with this pneumonia that they are resurfacing again probably because of the shortness of breath and the albuterol treatments and me not being able to exercise.

Back on Aspie Central they were even trying to get me to go along with LSD as a way to help AS symptoms. C'mon. I'm not crazy, but I did go into it with an open mind and actually read some articles where LSD is being used in other countries with autistic children with good results, BUT that is autistic children and not Asperger's. They were using the drug to try to communicate with the kids who had no way of communicating and were off in their own world. I believe they stopped the studies though if I remember correctly. There is no way that I'm ever going to believe there is a good reason for someone with HFA to use LSD.

Anybody who uses them has to be careful with hallucinogens. Those are a gamble, but unless you're violently allergic there's nothing dangerous about marijuana save for police. LSD is an exotropic lysergamide, elevated endotropic lysergamides in the brain are strong candidates for the root of visual thinking as far as ASD is concerned.

If I hadn't started with marijuana early, if I'm really honest, the academic stresses easily could've killed me and it's not like I'm under any less pressure professionally. You want to guilt trip kids over smoking weed? Fine, good for you I suppose. Whatever keeps your anxiety down, just don't get anybody thrown in jail over it, especially not those of us who value our psyches as we were given them, as long as you're willing to ingest ANYTHING synthetic and psychoactive.

Canada is a big country. It's the most laid back here on the West coast. But go to a major city in Alberta and while they still smoke it there, you'll find a lot of anti-marijuana cowboys. Attitudes towards marijuana vary wildly across the country. In general, Canada is pretty laid back about it.. but the most so here in Vansterdam.

I've never had a bad experience w/ any hallucinogen or psychedelic. That's interesting - & also the first potential explanation for visual thinking I've ever read about.

I've done several different drugs over the years and have benefited from all of them.

Agreed. Weed is pretty harmless.