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29 Dec 2015, 11:56 am

I must say I do envy men sometimes, as they don't get judged harshly for having hairy legs and armpits, can go out to the supermarket looking untidy without being judged, and just generally can do less grooming but still be accepted, and strutting around the house in their underwear seems more appropriate than it does for women. Being a woman, you will be awfully judged for having hairy legs (I learnt that the hard way), will be judged if you go out without looking clean and "beautiful", feel like you don't fit in with your female peers if you don't wear make-up (unless you're socially outgoing), and have to cover up otherwise you look inappropriate. By that I mean in the summer my brother came out into the garden just in his boxers and t-shirt, and nobody bat an eyelid, but if I had sat out in the garden wearing just my bra and knickers, I would be yelled at by my mum to put something on, and probably would embarrass male relatives.

But I'm still happy being a woman. I wouldn't ever want to be a man. I feel comfortable and natural being a woman.

Being Aspie on the other hand, has never made me happy. How sometimes I sit and daydream about being NT.

That just concludes that this is all about statistics for me. I don't care being female because half the population are females; half the kids at school were females; half my family are females; half the people I pass every day in the street are females, so being female does not make me feel isolated or abnormal.
But being Aspie is a different story. Most of the population are NTs; most of the kids at school were NTs, most (actually all) of my family are NTs; most of the people I pass every day in the street are NTs; and that's without counting people who aren't NT but aren't Aspie/Autistic.
So that is why I perceive Asperger's differently to any other part of me.


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29 Dec 2015, 11:58 am

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Yes, I suppose so. I don't think on it much until someone brings it up. Especially when someone goes "autism is great!" That makes me go:

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Which is an improvement over the reaction I used to have:

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I love this so much. This is so exactly how I feel on a daily basis. Especially with those that, when I describe WHY I think I am me, say "Everyone has that trouble". :roll: But then when I mention what happens when I just 'push through it' like them, say "Well, that's crazy!! ! You need to grow up!! !" :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

But for the OP's answer, yes, I wish there was a way to make me 'normal'. Whether it was a brain swap, or a neuro-patch, or whatever. Yes.


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29 Dec 2015, 4:31 pm

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Transcontinent to mean someone who transitioned from being continent to being incontinent because that was their desire?
Not to nitpick...oh who's kidding, I'm diving in!!

Transcontinent would actually refer to traversing the continent and nothing to do with bowel movements. Hence the full term, Transcontinental.
Continent is something like the North American Continent vs. the Asian Continent. Areas of land divided by geographical plates.

Or do you mean:
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: self-restraint; especially : a refraining from sexual intercourse

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: the ability to retain a bodily discharge voluntarily <fecal continence>
Vs.
Incontinence
Where you are not able to voluntarily control the bladder or bowels?


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29 Dec 2015, 5:35 pm

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Not to nitpick...oh who's kidding, I'm diving in!!


It's an autism forum. It'd be strange not to nitpick everything! :lol:


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29 Dec 2015, 5:45 pm

zkydz wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Transcontinent to mean someone who transitioned from being continent to being incontinent because that was their desire?
Not to nitpick...oh who's kidding, I'm diving in!!

Incontinence
Where you are not able to voluntarily control the bladder or bowels?



Incontinence. There are people in the ABDL community that actually want to lose control of their bowels or bladder or both so there is such thing called the 12 step program to losing your bladder control. But so far I have not seen anyone say they have transitioned to being incontinent and giving it a name. But I have heard of transage already and age dysmorphia where they feel younger on the inside and identify at a younger age but that is a debate in the AB/DL community about rather it's real or not.


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29 Dec 2015, 6:56 pm

I don't know if anyone noticed this. But I really think that this hole "trans-neuro" thing is just another way of saying "I want a cure.". Wouldn't you agree?



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29 Dec 2015, 7:19 pm

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I don't know if anyone noticed this. But I really think that this hole "trans-neuro" thing is just another way of saying "I want a cure.". Wouldn't you agree?


There does seem to be so many threads spring up here that are subtly associated with wanting a cure, that it gets kinda boring. And that's saying something, because I'm an Asperger's-hater myself and would do anything to be NT.

So yeah, you might be right.


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29 Dec 2015, 8:07 pm

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But I have heard of transage already and age dysmorphia where they feel younger on the inside and identify at a younger age but that is a debate in the AB/DL community about rather it's real or not.
See? That's where things can actually be over defined. There is absolutely no person I have met in my life that did not feel younger inside than on the outside. It's the biggest defeat in life. To actually feel that way but never be able to actually do those things because physicality is not available anymore.


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29 Dec 2015, 8:21 pm

Tthe two kinds of "continent" (North America, and Depends) are actually related in word origins. They both derive from the notion of 'being whole" of "being of one piece", "one continuous thing". Thats what someone told me once. Just thought Id mention it.



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29 Dec 2015, 8:26 pm

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Tthe two kinds of "continent" (North America, and Depends) are actually related in word origins. They both derive from the notion of 'being whole" of "being of one piece", "one continuous thing". Thats what someone told me once. Just thought Id mention it.
Makes perfect sense. And, as is my nature, I will investigate it. For some reason I have to collect such information. It really is a compulsion.

Thanks!!

ya bastiche....now I gotta go do research LOL


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29 Dec 2015, 8:51 pm

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I don't know if anyone noticed this. But I really think that this hole "trans-neuro" thing is just another way of saying "I want a cure.". Wouldn't you agree?


More or less. I'm not quite in the "I want a cure" category for the simple reason I don't think that's even a remotely feasible thing to ask for. It's not something that can happen. If it could, I'd be interested in it.


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29 Dec 2015, 8:58 pm

That hits the nail on the head.

The OP doesnt have the nerve to admit that he is "pro cure".

Is the fault his? For being too much of a wuss to admit his true colors?

Or is the fault ours from creating such an anti cure environment?

NAHHHH...

He is a wuss. AND he's pro cure. So let's all kick his ass! :lol:

But seriously: I cannot imagine how a "cure" for autism could work even in science fiction.



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29 Dec 2015, 9:12 pm

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But seriously: I cannot imagine how a "cure" for autism could work even in science fiction.


It couldn't, which is why "pro-cure/anti-cure" is kind of silly to me and I kind of scoff at people who suggest I'm "pro-cure". Any discussion of a cure is little more than a hypothetical scenario or thought exercise for me.

As to how it could maybe be done someday? Possibly something pre-natal, but we're so far from understanding causes of autism that it's absurd to even talk about how that might be done.

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Or is the fault ours from creating such an anti cure environment?


A little bit. It kept me from coming anywhere near this place for years and I still haven't decided if I should have continued doing so. I got this impression that this was "a community for people with autism, as long as they agree with our views on it... the rest can f**k off" and still sometimes get that idea.


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29 Dec 2015, 9:22 pm

I am happy being an aspie. I think that we should be proud. We are different. We are strong. We are intelligent. We are amazing. We can do so much. NTs spend all their time thinking on less important stuff, I think us Aspies have life figured out more. We think differently to NTs and that is a good thing; most of the best writers, scientists, teachers, doctors, musicians, actors, directors, producers etc are aspies.



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29 Dec 2015, 9:28 pm

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I am happy being an aspie. I think that we should be proud. We are different. We are strong. We are intelligent. We are amazing. We can do so much. NTs spend all their time thinking on less important stuff, I think us Aspies have life figured out more. We think differently to NTs and that is a good thing; most of the best writers, scientists, teachers, doctors, musicians, actors, directors, producers etc are aspies.


If you're happy with it, that's great! :) No joke, I think it's a good thing.

But maybe don't start looking at "NTs" like they're somehow inferior, which is what your comment sounds like. It's really pretty disturbing. 8O I see this sort of thing and it makes me want to scream at my monitor, especially when it's attached to a comment like "all the best X are aspies" which I never see backed up with any evidence whatsoever and which I'd be intensely skeptical of even if there was some.


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29 Dec 2015, 9:35 pm

I didn't mean to come on so strong. I just mean that aspies shouldn't feel uncomfortable having it. I don't mean that we are superior to NTs in anyway, just that we are good at what we do (i.e. our careers, and 'special interests')